Spikes Kraken
- Thread starter Red Dawn
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To this day I won't buy anything from them because when I asked why the increase they told me cost of materials went up ...... had they said "we are being capitalists and think we can make money off scare buying" I would have accepted that
Let's just see if their prices don't go up if Hillary is elected. If they don't....
They've already established a reputation, now they have to live with it. You don't get to try to take the high road and invite others that always have, after wallowing in the mud.
Anyway, it doesn't matter to me. I'll never buy another part, piece or rifle from them.
They've already established a reputation, now they have to live with it. You don't get to try to take the high road and invite others that always have, after wallowing in the mud.
Anyway, it doesn't matter to me. I'll never buy another part, piece or rifle from them.
DoglegArms
Silencer Dealer of 2015, 2016, 2017
Bull. The cost of their inventory on hand did not increase overnight. The price literally doubled the day after the election. And the supplier they blamed it on called their bluff, publicly stating that there had been no change on the supply side.
DoglegArms
Silencer Dealer of 2015, 2016, 2017
Aero raised their prices and cancelled pre-existing dealer orders. I don't get my info from arfcom either. It's nothing short of negligence to ignore what your supplier is doing and adjust your business model accordingly. Especially if you have payroll to meet for your employees. Half the shit people bitch about if the gun industry is an ounce of truth rolled up in bullshit drama. That's why arfcom is such a joke.
I haven't been on arfcom in YEARS. Spikes raised their prices on standing inventory in '08 because they wanted to. I don't recall if it was Aero or not at the time, but their supplier made it clear that they had not raised prices and certainly had not doubled them. This was long before the days of $50-80 lowers. Going rate back then was more like $125+ and Spikes went to North of $200 or $250 the next day. They got called out and it was clear that it was no one's decision but theirs.
No other respectable manufacturer in the industry raised prices based on panic buying. Hell, BCM has never raised prices as a result of a buying panic. And we've had at least three panics over the last seven years.
And if we want to get down to brass tacks, that was just one of many occasions where the owner has shown himself to be an ass.
DoglegArms
Silencer Dealer of 2015, 2016, 2017
I wasn't implying you were an barfcommer
I have respect for you. arfcom has good info when you weed through the drama. You obviously view the situation differently than I do. I'm familiar with the situation and not arguing the timeline of events. As a business I have to set my own margins based on what my business model is not any others. It's always for maximum profit as it is in every retail business.
API is doing variance lowers for Spikes, that takes time for the ATF paperwork.
I'm sure Spikes has a production calendar laid out for the next few years.
API can deny it all they want. They cancelled pre-existing orders and jacked up prices at that time and pissed off a lot of dealers. It's a commonly talked about in dealer forums.
Spikes is a good company. I don't know who the owner is but they've been good to me and to many other small dealers I know. On the other hand, API has blatantly lied to me in emails about how they manf lowers.
Edit: And no this isn't @dougiemac using my account.
I wasn't implying you were an barfcommerI have respect for you. arfcom has good info when you weed through the drama.
You obviously view the situation differently than I do. I'm familiar with the situation and not arguing the timeline of events. As a business I have to set my own margins based on what my business model is not any others. It's always for maximum profit as it is in every retail business.
API is doing variance lowers for Spikes, that takes time for the ATF paperwork.
I'm sure Spikes has a production calendar laid out for the next few years.
API can deny it all they want. They cancelled pre-existing orders and jacked up prices at that time and pissed off a lot of dealers. It's a commonly talked about in dealer forums.
Spikes is a good company. I don't know who the owner is but they've been good to me and to many other small dealers I know. On the other hand, API has blatantly lied to me in emails about how they manf lowers.
Edit: And no this isn't @dougiemac using my account.
That last part was pretty damn funny! And I don't doubt that Aero cancelled orders. I understand that. I'm definitely not defending API. The issue was that on Tuesday, Spikes had lowers in stock at a certain price and Wednesday morning they were a different price. Obviously, Spikes cost on future orders would rise as a result of APIs decision. But that didn't change the cost of what was sitting in inventory.
API made lowers for alot of folks. Spikes was the only one that raised prices 100%. The stated reason was misleading at best and outright dishonest at worst. People's objections were as much about the dishonesty as they were the price increase.
With that being said, it does appear that Spikes is popular with smaller dealers and if you've had good experience with them, I believe you 100%.
What did they lie about? I am pondering their M5 AR10 receiver set, but am curios what they tried to mislead you about?
We haven't even touched on the Spikes shill account on barfcom that was used to try to trash PSA when they showed up on the scene and began kicking that ST ass.
I am kind of split on the Big Ern McKraken logo but I'm betting that it's a multi-caliber AR system vs. a new lower roll mark. Actually it may be both but I doubt they'll sell the lowers stripped with the design. The caliber changeout trend is in full force.
It wasn't a shill account. It was the owners well known and established account. He never tried to hide who he was.
