To this day I won't buy anything from them because when I asked why the increase they told me cost of materials went up ...... had they said "we are being capitalists and think we can make money off scare buying" I would have accepted thatHey, you guys do remember when Spikes more than doubled the cost of their lowers right after the election years ago, right? Like, overnight. Straight up Cheaper than Dirt tactics.
Bull. The cost of their inventory on hand did not increase overnight. The price literally doubled the day after the election. And the supplier they blamed it on called their bluff, publicly stating that there had been no change on the supply side.I guarantee you that Spikes increased their prices because Aero Precision did. Not sure if Aero is still their supplier but they were. If your supplier jacks up prices you have some price adjusting to do.
Bull. The cost of their inventory on hand did not increase overnight. The price literally doubled the day after the election. And the supplier they blamed it on called their bluff, publicly stating that there had been no change on the supply side.
Aero raised their prices and cancelled pre-existing dealer orders. I don't get my info from arfcom either. It's nothing short of negligence to ignore what your supplier is doing and adjust your business model accordingly. Especially if you have payroll to meet for your employees. Half the shit people bitch about if the gun industry is an ounce of truth rolled up in bullshit drama. That's why arfcom is such a joke.
I haven't been on arfcom in YEARS. Spikes raised their prices on standing inventory in '08 because they wanted to. I don't recall if it was Aero or not at the time, but their supplier made it clear that they had not raised prices and certainly had not doubled them. This was long before the days of $50-80 lowers. Going rate back then was more like $125+ and Spikes went to North of $200 or $250 the next day. They got called out and it was clear that it was no one's decision but theirs.Aero raised their prices and cancelled pre-existing dealer orders. I don't get my info from arfcom either. It's nothing short of negligence to ignore what your supplier is doing and adjust your business model accordingly. Especially if you have payroll to meet for your employees. Half the shit people bitch about if the gun industry is an ounce of truth rolled up in bullshit drama. That's why arfcom is such a joke.
I wasn't implying you were an barfcommerI have respect for you. arfcom has good info when you weed through the drama.I haven't been on arfcom in YEARS. Spikes raised their prices on standing inventory in '08 because they wanted to. I don't recall if it was Aero or not at the time, but their supplier made it clear that they had not raised prices and certainly had not doubled them. This was long before the days of $50-80 lowers. Going rate back then was more like $125+ and Spikes went to North of $200 or $250 the next day. They got called out and it was clear that it was no one's decision but theirs.
No other respectable manufacturer in the industry raised prices based on panic buying. Hell, BCM has never raised prices as a result of a buying panic. And we've had at least three panics over the last seven years.
And if we want to get down to brass tacks, that was just one of many occasions where the owner has shown himself to be an ass.
I wasn't implying you were an barfcommerI have respect for you. arfcom has good info when you weed through the drama.
You obviously view the situation differently than I do. I'm familiar with the situation and not arguing the timeline of events. As a business I have to set my own margins based on what my business model is not any others. It's always for maximum profit as it is in every retail business.
API is doing variance lowers for Spikes, that takes time for the ATF paperwork.
I'm sure Spikes has a production calendar laid out for the next few years.
API can deny it all they want. They cancelled pre-existing orders and jacked up prices at that time and pissed off a lot of dealers. It's a commonly talked about in dealer forums.
Spikes is a good company. I don't know who the owner is but they've been good to me and to many other small dealers I know. On the other hand, API has blatantly lied to me in emails about how they manf lowers.
Edit: And no this isn't @dougiemac using my account.
On the other hand, API has blatantly lied to me in emails about how they manf lowers.
@dougiemac using my account.
We haven't even touched on the Spikes shill account on barfcom that was used to try to trash PSA when they showed up on the scene and began kicking that ST ass.
That's not really any better. But I do remember way back in the day when "badassar15" (spelling?) did actually shill on ar15.com, pretending to be a happy customer of a little known shop down in Florida, called Spikes Tactical.It wasn't a shill account. It was the owners well known and established account. He never tried to hide who he was.