Comes with both threaded and standard barrel. 1/2x28.
Adds $175 to the MSRP, which is a steal with the added benefit of a threaded barrel($100-$200), tall sights ($60), and slide milling ($$$).
Just curious, what don't you like about them?M&P...the gun I want to like.
I'm just glad to see them putting an effort into threaded barrels again. Apparently, ports are an "in-thing" for S&W lately.Theres also a ported version with a milled lightened slide. It comes with a ported(for compensators) and non ported threaded barrel.
I'm the same way, i can't even tell why i don't consider them when buying. But the core models do attract me with the milled slides.Just curious, what don't you like about them?
Just curious, what don't you like about them?
so M&P's require a tool for takedown or am i misremembering?
I'm actually an M&P guy. Several years ago, when I converted over to 9mm, away from 40, I bought an M&P. I was coming from a string of guns including HK, Sig, a couple of 1911s and somewhere in between, a couple of Glocks. I liked the M&P because of the ergos. Then along came Apex, which solidified my position.They've just never made an impression on me. They aren't bad pistols by any means...I had an M&P 45C with the full Apex trigger in it. It was nice...but the gun really needs a nice big undercut on the trigger guard to be comfortable for me. Otherwise....I just felt "meh" about it. I'd rather have a full size M&P45 with the Apex kit than a G21SF, though.....If I can't have my USP45
I'm actually an M&P guy. Several years ago, when I converted over to 9mm, away from 40, I bought an M&P. I was coming from a string of guns including HK, Sig, a couple of 1911s and somewhere in between, a couple of Glocks. I liked the M&P because of the ergos. Then along came Apex, which solidified my position.
My primary bedside and training pistol is a fullsize MP9, with an Apex FSS. At one point, I tried to go back to a Glock, but couldn't get adjusted to the grip angle after several years of shooting guns that closely approximate a 1911 grip.
I've also tried the PPQ a couple of times and a VP9. For me, the combination of the Apex FSS and the smooth recoil of the MP9 has been hard to beat. Better trigger than the VP9 and better recoil management than the PPQ. However, it is not as accurate as my former Sigs, HKs or PPQs. It's acceptable, but not super accurate. Also, the control placement for the M&P is just about perfect.
I wouldn't say that I love the M&P or that it's superior to other options. But it works really well for me with the Apex trigger.
Actually, they want you to use the built in pin that retains the back strap for disassembly. You're supposed to use it to push down the sear disengagement lever. This is a "safety feature" to avoid pulling the trigger during disassembly like the Glock.so M&P's require a tool for takedown or am i misremembering?
I currently own a fullsize and compact MP9, as well as a Shield. I liked the VP9 alot, but swapping platforms all the time was messing me up. Admittedly, the Apex trigger has me spoiled. But if HK ever releases a VP9 compact, I'd probably give it another go.I wish I could say the same...especially since they are so cheap with military pricing. For me the VP9 is the single best 9mm poly handgun on the market today...straight out of the box. As soon as one is in stock somewhere I plan on trying out the new PPQ45....until the VP45 finally comes out. ( I hope).
Those VTAC sights drive me nuts! On any M&P, the first thing to go are the sights. Almost every one I've owned has lost the front sight dot within 100 rounds. They use a paint filler in a drilled out hole for the front sight. I had one where the dot disintegrated just from racking the slide, before I ever fired a round through it. I consider them equivalent to Glock sights, placeholders until I can drop in a set of Heinie Straight Eights.the VTAC models of the M&P are pretty great though....add the Apex trigger and you've got yourself a reasonably priced combat handgun read for suppression.