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Axeman

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Jeddak said:
Actually, USSR was much more organized. When growing up we referred to the rifle as AKM, not AK47.
My dad called his AK74M, AKS74, AKS74U, etc. But the same name did not transfer to the west. By the end of 1980 AKM was mothballed in Soviet Army, all were recalled and stored. USSR switched to 5.45x39.
Other countries started making sorta copies of new AK74 designs, but in 7.62x39 and with different names. Then Poland, Germany, Romania and Bulgaria started making them in 5.56 NATO.
Russian 5.56 did not exist till series 100.
Someone in the West(?) decided to call AKS74U "Krinkov" and make it in 7.62x39. Soviets never fielded Krinkov, it was AKS74U.
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Well, now that does make more sense - the other countries making their copies did so in response to the lack of further Russian ones being produced in the caliber they preferred, right?
And then there’s the CZECH guys, who always have to go a different route, and the Yugoslavs who find a point in between standard and Czech and make their guns only slightly different.
 
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Jeddak said:
Actually, USSR was much more organized. When growing up we referred to the rifle as AKM, not AK47.
My dad called his AK74M, AKS74, AKS74U, etc. But the same name did not transfer to the west. By the end of 1980 AKM was mothballed in Soviet Army, all were recalled and stored. USSR switched to 5.45x39.
Other countries started making sorta copies of new AK74 designs, but in 7.62x39 and with different names. Then Poland, Germany, Romania and Bulgaria started making them in 5.56 NATO.
Russian 5.56 did not exist till series 100.
Someone in the West(?) decided to call AKS74U "Krinkov" and make it in 7.62x39. Soviets never fielded Krinkov, it was AKS74U.
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What does the S and U stand for in AKs74u?
 
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I.D.-ten-T said:
What does the S and U stand for in AKs74u?
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Skladyivayuschiyasya Folding.
Ukorochenniy Shortened.

PS you are correct.
USSR helped to set up production of small arms, but as long as Warsaw Pact countries stuck to the same caliber, they were left mostly alone. VZ58 was redesigned for 7.62x39.
Most WP countries did not change to 5.45 well after USSR did, sticking with 7.62x39 much longer. Romania did, Czechs just started (Lada project), Poles did with Tantal (their own copy of AK74). East Germany and Bulgaria bought AK74 plans and licsenes from USSR.
USSR still had hundreds of thousands of 7.62x39 AKMs in the reserves and still made AKMs for export (as well as ammo), so slow change was overlooked.
Yugoslavia was not a part of Wasaw Pact, and heavily invested into SKS and its variants, they used SKS as a front line weapon well into Balkan wars. In USSR it was mothballed and used for ceremonial purposes only. SKS is much easier to balance in one hand for honor guard than AK.
 
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