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    Votes: 3 12.5%
  • Wipe and sit

    Votes: 10 41.7%
  • Birdnest

    Votes: 5 20.8%
  • eww, i'm to uppidy to use a public tiolet

    Votes: 6 25.0%

  • Total voters
    24

Tedkennedy

Omnivore
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Absolutely. Weighing all the pros and cons of every idea I have.

I can’t seem to get military off my list. UGH

Military, put in for medical. Get schooled, get out.

Wife did residency for a while at Ft Leonard Wood during her CRNA program. The Army puts out some of the best CRNAs, and they make REAL good money.

Talk to a recruiter about a career path, but watch those bastards. Recruiters are soulless liars
 

KhyberPass

Vaginal wart inspector
Kalash Klub Mod
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And what holds JDS back from doing form 1s?

staying up late and buying 250 more rounds of 5.7x28 and 2 more 50 round mags.

good note? I’ve got like 1750 rounds of 5.7 stacked deep
bad news? I’m always too poor to chop the barrel because I’m too scared of an ammo shortage.

got 6 total 50 round mags think I’m good on sticks for a bit, not KK standards but close

working on my @Jeddak ammo standards plan
 

3x

Sasquatch
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Oct 14, 2019
13,970
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Is that like the CDC saying not to buy masks just so they can keep all the masks for themselves?
Story time... I was in Gwinnett County at a hearing (oh shit, it was because I was naughty) and there was a young lady who got zapped for blabbing on her cell phone while driving. Judge asked her if she was in school.
Yes.
What kind of grades?
Straight A student.
Going to college?
Yes.
What are you going to study?
I want to be lawyer.
...
...
Let me tell you how bad of an idea that is, young lady. Why don't you do something like become a doctor instead?


If anyone wants to become a lawyer and doesn't let themselves be talked out of it, heck, I will give out all the best advice for not fucking it up and making it slightly less miserable of an experience. I'm just saying that it takes a lot of time, money, and hard work for a set of outcomes that operate independently of your output.
 

Axeman

If you can’t laugh at yourself you’re FUKT!!!
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Goat Rodeo Clown
Zip code
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And what holds JDS back from doing form 1s?

staying up late and buying 250 more rounds of 5.7x28 and 2 more 50 round mags.

good note? I’ve got like 1750 rounds of 5.7 stacked deep
bad news? I’m always too poor to chop the barrel because I’m too scared of an ammo shortage.

got 6 total 50 round mags think I’m good on sticks for a bit, not KK standards but close

working on my @Jeddak ammo standards plan
What’s the purpose of this gun after you chop the barrel? CQB only?
Just asking because depending on how much you chop, won’t the ballistics drop along with the accuracy at distance?
So that’ll relegate it to being practically a pistol, which you already have in that caliber...

Now here’s a chart from BallisticsByTheInch.com, they don’t have 5.7, closest (I guess) is .22mag:


Click here for a Muzzle Energy graph for the tests in this caliber.

barrel length​
CCI
Game-
point
40 gr.
JSP​
CCI
Maxi-
Mag
40 gr.
JHP​
CCI
Maxi-
Mag
HP+V
30 gr.
JHP​
CCI
V-Max
30 gr.
polymer
tip​
Federal
30 gr.
Speer
TNT HP​
Fiocchi
PSD
40 gr.
JSP​
Fiocchi
PSD
40 gr.
JHP​
Hornady
45 gr.
Flex
Tip
eXpand-
ing​
Hornady
V-Max
30 gr.​
Hornady
25 gr.
NTX​
Win'ster
30 gr.
Hornady
Polymer
Tip
V-Max​
19"​
1827​
1999​
2285​
2348​
2355​
1908​
1936​
1773​
2296​
2265​
2149​
18"​
1837​
1985​
2322​
2298​
2324​
1920​
1950​
1764​
2313​
2235​
2110​
17"​
1825​
1980​
2280​
2288​
2334​
1918​
1938​
1755​
2318​
2241​
2160​
16"​
1780​
1987​
2316​
2276​
2283​
1887​
1934​
1702​
2252​
2166​
2129​
15"​
1799​
1967​
2304​
2294​
2275​
1916​
1873​
1738​
2240​
2229​
2127​
14"​
1783​
1963​
2230​
2298​
2244​
1885​
1951​
1751​
2243​
2250​
2105​
13"​
1749​
1889​
2181​
2220​
2227​
1852​
1886​
1698​
2245​
2191​
2071​
12"​
1750​
1881​
2168​
2204​
2163​
1843​
1811​
1699​
2144​
2138​
2052​
11"​
1709​
1835​
2079​
2097​
2135​
1788​
1845​
1652​
2093​
2146​
1989​
10"​
1687​
1817​
2060​
2144​
2102​
1791​
1772​
1643​
2069​
2065​
1951​
9"​
1672​
1759​
2000​
2061​
2018​
1723​
1772​
1630​
1966​
2024​
1924​
8"​
1594​
1706​
1950​
2012​
1979​
1650​
1696​
1536​
1977​
1928​
1803​
7"​
1529​
1617​
1887​
1904​
1879​
1626​
1606​
1525​
1821​
1818​
1763​
6"​
1484​
1575​
1763​
1804​
1821​
1526​
1544​
1454​
1740​
1824​
1694​
5"​
1355​
1474​
1672​
1723​
1657​
1433​
1477​
1307​
1602​
1670​
1575​
4"​
1248​
1353​
1510​
1504​
1457​
1287​
1269​
1239​
1379​
1492​
1454​
3"​
1089​
1160​
1236​
1336​
1228​
1101​
1117​
1049​
1153​
1308​
1288​
2"​
887​
946​
884​
1085​
895​
899​
853​
843​
962​
1114​
n/a​

So if this is roughly the same as 5.7, and you’re going from 16” to 10”, you’ll only lose about 100-180fps, depending on your load.
Then you gotta determine if that critically changes the performance of the bullet, and if this is all worthwhile for a 6” shorter barrel and the hassle and wait.
 

Shemp

Boomerwaffen Fuddmander
Kalash Klub
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Story time... I was in Gwinnett County at a hearing (oh shit, it was because I was naughty) and there was a young lady who got zapped for blabbing on her cell phone while driving. Judge asked her if she was in school.
Yes.
What kind of grades?
Straight A student.
Going to college?
Yes.
What are you going to study?
I want to be lawyer.
...
...
Let me tell you how bad of an idea that is, young lady. Why don't you do something like become a doctor instead?


If anyone wants to become a lawyer and doesn't let themselves be talked out of it, heck, I will give out all the best advice for not fucking it up and making it slightly less miserable of an experience. I'm just saying that it takes a lot of time, money, and hard work for a set of outcomes that operate independently of your output.
I talked myself out of becoming a lawyer, does that count for something? But then again, I dont have 3x $$$ so maybe I fucked up
 

KhyberPass

Vaginal wart inspector
Kalash Klub Mod
Kalash Klub
Lifetime Supporter
Oct 14, 2019
18,181
109,754
113
Space
What’s the purpose of this gun after you chop the barrel? CQB only?
Just asking because depending on how much you chop, won’t the ballistics drop along with the accuracy at distance?
So that’ll relegate it to being practically a pistol, which you already have in that caliber...

Now here’s a chart from BallisticsByTheInch.com, they don’t have 5.7, closest (I guess) is .22mag:


Click here for a Muzzle Energy graph for the tests in this caliber.

barrel length​
CCI
Game-
point
40 gr.
JSP​
CCI
Maxi-
Mag
40 gr.
JHP​
CCI
Maxi-
Mag
HP+V
30 gr.
JHP​
CCI
V-Max
30 gr.
polymer
tip​
Federal
30 gr.
Speer
TNT HP​
Fiocchi
PSD
40 gr.
JSP​
Fiocchi
PSD
40 gr.
JHP​
Hornady
45 gr.
Flex
Tip
eXpand-
ing​
Hornady
V-Max
30 gr.​
Hornady
25 gr.
NTX​
Win'ster
30 gr.
Hornady
Polymer
Tip
V-Max​
19"​
1827​
1999​
2285​
2348​
2355​
1908​
1936​
1773​
2296​
2265​
2149​
18"​
1837​
1985​
2322​
2298​
2324​
1920​
1950​
1764​
2313​
2235​
2110​
17"​
1825​
1980​
2280​
2288​
2334​
1918​
1938​
1755​
2318​
2241​
2160​
16"​
1780​
1987​
2316​
2276​
2283​
1887​
1934​
1702​
2252​
2166​
2129​
15"​
1799​
1967​
2304​
2294​
2275​
1916​
1873​
1738​
2240​
2229​
2127​
14"​
1783​
1963​
2230​
2298​
2244​
1885​
1951​
1751​
2243​
2250​
2105​
13"​
1749​
1889​
2181​
2220​
2227​
1852​
1886​
1698​
2245​
2191​
2071​
12"​
1750​
1881​
2168​
2204​
2163​
1843​
1811​
1699​
2144​
2138​
2052​
11"​
1709​
1835​
2079​
2097​
2135​
1788​
1845​
1652​
2093​
2146​
1989​
10"​
1687​
1817​
2060​
2144​
2102​
1791​
1772​
1643​
2069​
2065​
1951​
9"​
1672​
1759​
2000​
2061​
2018​
1723​
1772​
1630​
1966​
2024​
1924​
8"​
1594​
1706​
1950​
2012​
1979​
1650​
1696​
1536​
1977​
1928​
1803​
7"​
1529​
1617​
1887​
1904​
1879​
1626​
1606​
1525​
1821​
1818​
1763​
6"​
1484​
1575​
1763​
1804​
1821​
1526​
1544​
1454​
1740​
1824​
1694​
5"​
1355​
1474​
1672​
1723​
1657​
1433​
1477​
1307​
1602​
1670​
1575​
4"​
1248​
1353​
1510​
1504​
1457​
1287​
1269​
1239​
1379​
1492​
1454​
3"​
1089​
1160​
1236​
1336​
1228​
1101​
1117​
1049​
1153​
1308​
1288​
2"​
887​
946​
884​
1085​
895​
899​
853​
843​
962​
1114​
n/a​

So if this is roughly the same as 5.7, and you’re going from 16” to 10”, you’ll only lose about 100-180fps, depending on your load.
Then you gotta determine if that critically changes the performance of the bullet, and if this is all worthwhile for a 6” shorter barrel and the hassle and wait.
Here’s your real numbers, same bullet SS198LF green tip chrono @ 10 feet around 2650 FPS

E87AD3BE-96EE-413A-B67E-A7CFA7E58D56.png

here’s the numbers from same round, out of a 10.5” SBR barrel chrono at 10y

93A65018-95C6-4A2A-865C-9FF1D9A2850C.png

clearly you can tell yes you lose velocity, about a 40 ft/lbs loos of energy on target at MY max distances of 200y

200y is as far as all I’ll attempt to stretch this weapon with or without a 16” barrel.

Im willing to sacrifice said velocity, and add a bit to my holdovers to chop that barrel. Especially when this shines within 100y I’m ok with a 28gr bullet producing 305ftlbs @ 100 with the shorter bbl