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Old Skool

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I don't know a ton about guns, but I know a lot about manufacturing.

Like most things in this country, there are only a couple manufacturers, and tons of companies just labeling their logo onto stuff.

158 Carpenter Steel is the "strongest"/"hardest" steel used for bcg bolts.

There is a limited and finite amount of true 158 Carpenter Steel produced in this country. Its made by one manufacturer, and then sold to a few big players.

9310 and 8620 are other steels used in bcg.

Toolcraft and AO are the manufacturers that produce a 158 bolt. The other companies are too small to get their share of 158 raw materials.

There are other manufacturers out there, but those are the big players. Most companies that are selling a logo'd bcg, its produced by one of these two manufacturers.

Lastly, a lot of times the nickel boron bcg will be made with 8620 carrier, and 9310 bolt. Not to say which is better, just the differences.

And Lastly again, as fucked up as it is, sometimes companies just flat out lie in their advertising. Just because they say they use 158 bolt, doesn't always mean they do. Bigger companies with good reputations mostly advertise correctly, but don't think there aren't crooked people out there either.
 
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Bigigloopt2

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I don't know a ton about guns, but I know a lot about manufacturing.

Like most things in this country, there are only a couple manufacturers, and tons of companies just labeling their logo onto stuff.

158 Carpenter Steel is the "strongest"/"hardest" steel used for bcg bolts.

There is a limited and finite amount of true 158 Carpenter Steel produced in this country. Its made by one manufacturer, and then sold to a few big players.

9310 and 8620 are other steels used in bcg.

Toolcraft and AO are the manufacturers that produce a 158 bolt. The other companies are too small to get their share of 158 raw materials.

There are other manufacturers out there, but those are the big players.

Lastly, a lot of times the nickel boron bcg will be made with 8620 carrier, and 9310 bolt. Not to say which is better, just the differences.

And Lastly again, as fucked up as it is, sometimes companies just flat out lie in their advertising. Just because they say they use 158 bolt, doesn't always mean they do. Bigger companies with good reputations mostly advertise correctly, but don't think there aren't crooked people out there either.
I love stuff like this
 

cbh13

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man all these bcm pictures keep up my desire again to get one. but looking like im gonna build some sort of woven wire fence for dogo this weekend so that may have to wait.

Thought abotu it and if i hadnt gone so crazy with house renovations and car mods this year i'd already be close to my full auto mac desire. New flooring, paint, furniture, car paint, suspension, brakes, all mannar of maintenance shit adds up fucking faasssstttt
 

Rabbit2047

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I don't know a ton about guns, but I know a lot about manufacturing.

Like most things in this country, there are only a couple manufacturers, and tons of companies just labeling their logo onto stuff.

158 Carpenter Steel is the "strongest"/"hardest" steel used for bcg bolts.

There is a limited and finite amount of true 158 Carpenter Steel produced in this country. Its made by one manufacturer, and then sold to a few big players.

9310 and 8620 are other steels used in bcg.

Toolcraft and AO are the manufacturers that produce a 158 bolt. The other companies are too small to get their share of 158 raw materials.

There are other manufacturers out there, but those are the big players. Most companies that are selling a logo'd bcg, its produced by one of these two manufacturers.

Lastly, a lot of times the nickel boron bcg will be made with 8620 carrier, and 9310 bolt. Not to say which is better, just the differences.

And Lastly again, as fucked up as it is, sometimes companies just flat out lie in their advertising. Just because they say they use 158 bolt, doesn't always mean they do. Bigger companies with good reputations mostly advertise correctly, but don't think there aren't crooked people out there either.

If anyone buys one and wants to test it, I have a Rockwell Gauge. C158 if properly heat treated should test out as 58+ hardness.

I made a knife out of Carpenter 158 one time as per customer request. Never ever ever ever ever again. Shit is extremely slow to move under the hammer
 

Tedkennedy

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If anyone buys one and wants to test it, I have a Rockwell Gauge. C158 if properly heat treated should test out as 58+ hardness.

I made a knife out of Carpenter 158 one time as per customer request. Never ever ever ever ever again. Shit is extremely slow to move under the hammer

What does 9310 test out as?

Why do some claim it's "better"?
 
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Slacker1972

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I have a similar situation. There's a problem that can cause serious injury but there are no parts to start the repair.
Our 2011 corolla had the airbag recall and toyota gave me a rental car for 11 months while they waited for the parts. I had to ask for it and as soon as I did they agreed.

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This is my buddy's ad. Certainly available to any of you, but more looking for info


He currently has this trade offer:
 
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Looking for input

This is my buddy's ad. Certainly available to any of you, but more looking for info


He currently has this trade offer:

EDIT: I completely missed the point of the post. I would make that trade I think

I've got a DR200. Really cool rifle and soft shooter, wish they still imported them. Biggest down side right now is parts availability, if something breaks you might have a hard time sourcing parts. I got lucky and got mine a few years ago before the prices really started going up. Wish would have been able to get a K2 with the real factory folding stock instead of the thumb hole conversion.

There is another one for sale here..

. DR200.jpg
 
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Rabbit2047

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Looking for input

This is my buddy's ad. Certainly available to any of you, but more looking for info


He currently has this trade offer:


He should take it and run.
 

Rabbit2047

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I've got a DR200. Really cool rifle and soft shooter, wish they still imported them. Biggest down side right now is parts availability, if something breaks you might have a hard time sourcing parts. I got lucky and got mine a few years ago before the prices really started going up. Wish would have been able to get a K2 with the real factory folding stock instead of the thumb hole conversion.

There is another one for sale here..

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The DR200 with the Ace Stock is nice, but I always was particularly fond of the AR100 with the full stock. I believe it was rated for 5.56 nato.
 

Axeman

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Looking for input

This is my buddy's ad. Certainly available to any of you, but more looking for info


He currently has this trade offer:
I agree with @Rabbit2047 on this one. Take the M1A, but it really depends on if you like bigger caliber scoped rifles or...NOT.
The Daewoo is neat, but no options to put anything other than the original iron sights on it, and replacement parts are unobtainium.
Plus that .308 is set up for a suppressor...Yummy.