Convince me on why I should get a smiff and wesson m&P 9
- Thread starter madHatter
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@ArtVandelay..... I think he is looking at the same thing, so I loaned him my G17. 
I've been thinking about giving it a shot too but I already have so many Glock mags and the trading community up north is sparse to say the least.
Because it is a product improved Glock....and Glock is the benchmark. Just as reliable but with better ergos....both triggers in stock form are underwhelming...but can be fixed.
Pfft...you got 3 Glocks....I'm just saying if yiu don't like them try the M&P. Just get a standard version...they can be had for $350 used if you look hard enough
Ah yes....well if yiu were still here I'd loan you my M&P 9 Performance Center ported to try out...
But I am not... So crap.
Hell... Living where I do ranges are few and very far between.
DoglegArms
Silencer Dealer of 2015, 2016, 2017
Lol I have no idea but that sounds like an urban legend. What about the Lone Wolf Timberwolf?
Like others have said, the M&P has great ergonomics. Both Glock and M&P triggers are classic spongy striker fired triggers, but you can get the APEX for the M&P or the ZEV for the Glock. Both are a big improvement over factory. Just don't expect to be nailing the center of a target right away like you would with the SA pull of those CZ's. It can be done, just takes some getting use too.
I really don't recall the original details. But after the Sigma debacle, Smith had to come up with a new design or they were going to be left behind by the LE market. In my opinion, it was a do or die time in their history. They went back to the drawing board and came up with a gun that addressed the weaknesses in the Glock design. Namely the grip angle and control designs. The trigger was comparable, but didn't have the reset of the Glock, because the M&P is fully cocked after cycling. As @ArtVandelay referred, it was supposed to be a product improved Glock. The locking block and sear block are beefier too, incorporating the slide rails into the blocks, instead of molding them into the frame.
The trigger has always been the weak point of the M&P. But the most recent revisions are pretty darn good. They're using the performance center sear, which is similar to the Apex Duty sear. And improvements to the trigger bar have improved reset considerably. It's very usable right out of the box. But for a little more coin, you can drop in an Apex DCAEK or FSS. The FSS is the best striker trigger I've ever used. And with a new M&P selling for $399, even with a replacement trigger, you're in Gen4 Glock territory.
My father has an xdm. God, I hate that gun...