How the 86 Ban Happened.....
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Reagan signed it because he was a scumbag politician bent on control like all the others.
the drug war was in full swing, so there was a new level of violence in the streets, and he actually resisted enacting legislation on guns while it was pretty popular to do so.
After he got shot, it really kicked into swing.
No but I spent a good 4 years in poly sci courses and that is how the 86 ban is taught. Product of drug war violence with its coffin nail driven in after the assassination attemptWere you even alive when Reagan was in office?
Because it was attached to FOPA which was a great piece of legislation that helped secure your second amendment freedoms.
Reagan didn't have the ability to line item veto and FOPA did more to secure 2nd amendment freedoms than the MG ban eroded them.
The NRA encouraged Reagan to sign it thinking the MG ban would be struck down by the court. To date the.MG ban has not made it to the SCOTUS because nobody has had standing which is why the current lawsuits are so exciting.
I was just out of HS in '86. Machine guns were not being fired from every street corner of Miami. And innocents weren't typically caught in the crossfire. In the Miami FBI shootout, the most news worthy gun story of the year, the most powerful weapon used by the perps was a Mini 14 (not modified).
Obviously.
Belgium politicians tried to crack harder down on gun laws, which are already extremely oppressive, after a grenade attack. It's just politicians reacting to the "we must do something" public.
the guys who got their form 1 machine gun stamps approved, and then suddenly the ATf called and told them to send the stamps back when they received them.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/09/11/atf-approves-post-86-machine-gun-form-1/
Yeah.
I heard about that one.
The atf will claim clerical error. And they will win.
Just like when the IRS gets to claim something similar when they mistakenly add five extra zeros to a tax refund. No one has ever kept that money.
I bet the ATF will even attempt to go after the guys for filing fraudulent forms. They knew (or should have known) that they were attempting an illicit transaction.
Not saying that it's right. Just saying our side won't win that one.
Now, if they had issued the stamps, and allowed the statute of limitations to pass, maybe there would be something to it.
Otherwise, not feeling it.
A clerical mistake doesn't vacate law
it has nothing to do with the clerical error, now the guys have a solid argument for standing since they have a denial on record. honestly it wouldn't have mattered if it was granted or not.
I remember when the ban went in, everyone was saying we don't need MG's they are too expensive the transfer tax is $200 for pete's sake. Etc Etc. I called the NRA and raised hell about it. Obviously it did no good. Look at all the parts kits that came in after the Soviet union went bust. Those could have been transferable MG's !!!