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I have finally come to the realization that I need to invest in the right tools for working on guns instead of using my regular hand tools and redneck engineering. I have an AR multi-wrench thingy, a rifle rest, and one of the blocks to hold an AR lower in a vice, and proper cleaning supplies.

I'm not looking to do this professionally, just stuff to do basic mods and repairs and tools to build lowers.

So far I plan on getting:
Sight pusher
Glock front sight tool
Punches (need help on specifics on this)
Vice block for handguns
Torque wrench


What else should I invest in?
 

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It's a good idea to have a nice set of allen and hex wrenches, as well as a proper screwdriver set just for gun work. Aside from a dremel tool, worn screwdrivers probably mess up more guns than anything else.
 
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You will want steel and brass punches, roll pin holders, small hammer, soft faced hammer and a bench block too.

Im assuming you already have a sturdy work table with a vise mounted?
 

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It's a good idea to have a nice set of allen and hex wrenches, as well as a proper screwdriver set just for gun work. Aside from a dremel tool, worn screwdrivers probably mess up more guns than anything else.
Good call on the screw drivers. I have Allen/hex wrenches
 

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You will want steel and brass punches, roll pin holders, small hammer, soft faced hammer and a bench block too.

Im assuming you already have a sturdy work table with a vise mounted?
I have a small hammer with plastic heads, I should probably get a smaller rubber one and brass one too.

Do you have any advice on a bench block?
 

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A nice bit set so you have the right size for each screw/etc.

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Not recommending this one - I just snagged a pic off of H-D's website.

A nice set of files and fine sand paper if you plan on any trigger work.

Assuming you already have a nice, well-lit workbench. Jeweler loupes help with small, close-up work.

Half of an egg carton to keep parts organized.
 
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A nice bit set so you have the right size for each screw/etc.

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Not recommending this one - I just snagged a pic off of H-D's website.

A nice set of files and fine sand paper if you plan on any trigger work.

Assuming you already have a nice, well-lit workbench. Jeweler loupes help with small, close-up work.

Half of an egg carton to keep parts organized.

I have a good workbench (old craftsman that was my grandfathers from the 60s, sturdy as hell), vice, and a work light.

I'm not going to jump into trigger work right away, but it is something I plan to get into down the road after lots of reading and practice.
 

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Here are the "basic" tools I would suggest. A big chunk of this is the Magpul wrench, but after buying one, I can really say its worth the money. Simple solid tool you shouldn't have to replace, unlike the Chinese Amazon ones...

Note: I am assuming you already have a 4"+ bench vice, and a small set of SAE hex keys (sometimes you may need a metric set), and red/blue loctite. I know its more than the $100 I noted earlier, but these would last you quite a while. If you didn't want to spend that much, dumping the vice jaws and Magpul wrench for the Brownells USGI wrench, would also give you a descent setup.

You can source ALOT of this for cheaper, like the vice jaws (like $10 from Homedepot.com vs $15 on Amazon).
Also, PSA's lower receiver blocks and clamshell are super solid. Amazon only had this SOPMOD block set for $10, not sure how well it would hold up. I bought my PSA set quite a few years ago on sale for $19. Not sure they sell the "PSA" brand ones anymore though...This is just a visual starter list.

I only use the PSA lower block these days, and bought a Geissele reaction rod, but those are ≈$100 not on sale vs $10 for a clamshell. They are WAY more convenient, but, like most good tools, they cost alot...

- Magpul wrench: Installing/removing GI barrel nuts as well as many free float tube nuts. Open ended so you don't have to have a FSB/gas block removed to use (like some wrenches PRI, others make). Also, has a flash hider and castle nut provision on the other end. Lastly, 1/2 drive input for a torque wrench with torque specs on the tool its self (always reference install instruction though as certain products do not share the same torque values)

-Rubber vice jaws: Great for general items like bolt guns, pistol barrels, and longer AR barrels or shorter un-installed barrels. Work great for misc home/auto parts too!

-Roll pin STARTER punches. I have that cheap set below. They are pretty short, but will save you from ruining roll pins regardless. That set will work on all mil-spec sized rollpins to assemble an AR. The bolt catch side needs to be covered in tape in case you miss the punch with the hammer, but this will virtually eliminate screw ups as long as things are lined up.

-Receiver blocks/clamshell: The lower blocks are great. Depending on your vice you can actually angle them to make installing parts much easier. They make FCG install/swaps a breeze, mag catch, as well as the safety/grip install. Side note, clamshell vices work, I have used mine ALOT, but, they are not as handy and a Geissele reaction rod. The upper goes in 1 way, and you are pretty much stuck with a standard shape forged upper (flat top or A2). Billet is 99% sure not to fit. Also, the stress of torquing the barrel nut/flash hiders all get put on the receiver. I personally never had a failure, but I could definitely see how if you had to crank one down to 80ft/lbs for alignment.

-Aeroshell 33ms. A little goes A LONG WAY. No need for a full tube. I find it applies best with the $1.85 plumber flux brushes you can get at ACE Hardware. Use on castle and barrel nuts.

-1/4 clevis pin. Make your pivot pin install a no-brainer. No need for a special $10 tool. Just this clevis pin and a punch, and you are done. ACE, Lowes, Home Depot all have them.

-Grace USA roll pin punches. DO NOT get a set of cheap ass punches. Buy once, cry once. These are THE best bang for the buck punches. They make alto nicer ones, but for the money, these are super solid. They have centering balls on the end to keep the punch from sliding off. Also, the steel is quality, so they are way less prone to bending, unlike the no name Harbor Freight/Amazon tools which bend with medium tapping. This will make your life so much nicer whenever you run across roll pins...

-Lyman hammer: That hammer is enough weight for 99% of firearms projects, but not too large as to Hulk smash your shit. Its also not too small that you have to smack punches for days trying to drift things in. The heads are solid/replaceable, and adding some blue loctite keeps them from spinning off during use.



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Also, Amazon doesn't have these, but I like the Wheeler block. Its very sturdy and a a good bit of features to aid in installing parts on a lower or FSB.

Below is from Midway USA, you can also pick them up from Academy for the same price.

The biggest help these provide is to hold the lower vertical for the bolt catch install, as well as supporting the trigger guard tang so it doesn't break off during install.

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I'm a cheap bastard, here's what I have and it's all worked well so far.

https://www.google.com/search?q=wheeler+torque+fat+wrench&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari

https://www.google.com/search?safe=....3..35i39k1j0i67k1j0i131k1j0i20k1.siJsys78sfc

https://www.amazon.com/TEKTON-66564...TF8&qid=1477480255&sr=8-11&keywords=punch+set

I also have a polymer/brass hammer, geissele reaction rod, some brass punches, AR multitool though the magpul wrench is the best one. The rest of the stuff is something most men would already have.
 

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I'm a cheap bastard, here's what I have and it's all worked well so far.

https://www.google.com/search?q=wheeler+torque+fat+wrench&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari

https://www.google.com/search?safe=....3..35i39k1j0i67k1j0i131k1j0i20k1.siJsys78sfc

https://www.amazon.com/TEKTON-66564...TF8&qid=1477480255&sr=8-11&keywords=punch+set

I also have a polymer/brass hammer, geissele reaction rod, some brass punches, AR multitool though the magpul wrench is the best one. The rest of the stuff is something most men would already have.

It looks you could have gone cheaper, I really think the stuff you listed would work for my needs. I will probably lean toward the inexpensive side to start and then upgrade if I start using them enough and keep the cheaper stuff for back ups. Except punches, I have learned my lesson on cheap punches in the past.

I have a brownells AR multiwrench already, what makes the magpul one better?
 

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It looks you could have gone cheaper, I really think the stuff you listed would work for my needs. I will probably lean toward the inexpensive side to start and then upgrade if I start using them enough and keep the cheaper stuff for back ups. Except punches, I have learned my lesson on cheap punches in the past.

I have a brownells AR multiwrench already, what makes the magpul one better?


The way the magpul wrench has the opening on the front, rather than the side. Much stronger, the other ones will flex and slip on really torqued down barrel nuts.

The tekton main set was as cheap as I felt I could go, but they seem pretty decent. It also has taper and center punches which come in handy. You can use the center punch to stake castle nuts or gas keys.
 
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