I agree 100%. The Swarm is a VERY nice can. If I didn’t get such a good deal on my Oculus I’d have gotten one of them. Still might. Though the Ticho is more up my alley now.
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No worries man. Ive though about picking up an occulus and a mask just to have. They are great cans. But after Henry (owner) stared us down at iv8888 range day 2016, I wonder if we inspired the occulus, cause it was announced a few months later lol.
Also, sad news related to my comment about those who race to the bottom. I hate to see anyone in the 2A community close up shop.
I think a lot of Huntertown arms problem was their shitty customer service. I’ll try to contact them multiple times. And I have heard horror stories about people sending their cans in for service and never getting them back.
People dont think about it, but customer service is expensive. When you are a small shop, you have to stop whatever you are working on to answer the phone. Replacing damaged baffles and re coating the silencers costs money and time too. Its hard to account for that at their price levels.
I guess so, but this was multiple emails. And not returning warranty work.... I dunno bro.
Boom! Thanks @DoglegArms ! Screaming good deals. He was also showing me a SilencerCo Omega 9K that he wants to move at a REALLY good price. Anyone wanting to get into the NFA game I highly advise to give him a call. He will give you the hookup and makes it STUPID easy.
Real talk. I saw your Can on the shelf while I was there too. Still jelly on that one.
Honestly, yalls cans are as much art as sound suppressor. I appreciate that level of craftsmanship more than saving a small amount of money. I love the beefiness of my apex-s, but I'd trade it for a swarm any day.
Right now is the time to buy a suppressor if you're thinking about getting into collecting stamps or if you've been collecting for some time. Get your first or get another one by contacting @DoglegArms He's the suppressor salesman of the year and he can get what you need on form.
Buy now. Now is the time to buy. Legislation isn't going to pass. Been saying that all along. Maybe some folks will catch on as time goes on and nothing happens.
You get what you pay for in a can, just like anything else. R&D is expensive. Tooling and machinery are expensive. Even more expensive if they are working with quality material like stellite and titanium and not just soft aluminum. Not to mention that overhead is expensive. It's a niche market and guess what, they need to make a profit.
If they price them too thin, they go out of business with any bump in the road - see HTA. Then you won't have a CS department to go back to if you have an issue.
Cans truly are a buy once, cry once product. I hate the saying, but it fits here. If you want in, it's expensive. But it's more expensive that buy cheap shit that breaks.
You get what you pay for in a can, just like anything else. R&D is expensive. Tooling and machinery are expensive. Even more expensive if they are working with quality material like stellite and titanium and not just soft aluminum. Not to mention that overhead is expensive. It's a niche market and guess what, they need to make a profit.
If they price them too thin, they go out of business with any bump in the road - see HTA. Then you won't have a CS department to go back to if you have an issue.
Cans truly are a buy once, cry once product. I hate the saying, but it fits here. If you want in, it's expensive. But it's more expensive that buy cheap shit that breaks.
I have 3 22 cans, and I kinda regret my last two that I purchased on a whim, which were cheaper models. I really want a Swarm or an Oculus now. Should have gone that route to begin with for my 2nd and 3rd rimfire cans. It would have only been an extra few hundo. Be smarter than me.
You can also save money by making your own. Thisnis literally what is inside of the black aces tactical Po Boy suppressor
lol. Gee, I wonder why they suffer so many baffle strikes?
When you're in business, your worst competition is a company like this. Their business model was wrong, and they were already going under when they started. In the meantime they artificially dragged down prices and harmed other companies before they ultimately and inevitably failed.