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Cleaning a few guns tonight after my 3rd range trip without cleaning them. I don't know what it is about CZ's but they seem to get a lot more dirty than other guns with roughly the same round count shooting the same ammo. The magazines get a bunch of shit all over them too, to the point where they won't drop free anymore and you have to strip them out of the gun. Just cleaned the P-07 and my designated range mags for it and I used about 4 or 5 wipes per magazine to get them clean inside and out. They drop free with no issues now after cleaning them though. :noidea:
 
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Cleaning a few guns tonight after my 3rd range trip without cleaning them. I don't know what it is about CZ's but they seem to get a lot more dirty than other guns with roughly the same round count shooting the same ammo. The magazines get a bunch of shit all over them too, to the point where they won't drop free anymore and you have to strip them out of the gun. Just cleaned the P-07 and my designated range mags for it and I used about 4 or 5 wipes per magazine to get them clean inside and out. They drop free with no issues now after cleaning them though. :noidea:
I've noticed this too, and it makes me wonder if the chambers aren't just a tad loose.
 
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I've noticed this too, and it makes me wonder if the chambers aren't just a tad loose.

I haven't purchased a CZ yet. It would be interesting to drop a Glock fired case in the chamber of the CZ to see if it fits. If the CZ swallows a Glock empty, they are loose for sure.
 
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I've noticed this too, and it makes me wonder if the chambers aren't just a tad loose.

I'm glad I'm not the only one to notice this. I clean my guns regularly but I guess I'll just have to be better about inspecting and cleaning the magazines on a regular basis as well. I've never seen a magazine get so filthy. On one of my magazines the blue follower was completely black due to carbon buildup and I could feel some resistance due to all of that carbon buildup on/inside of the magazines when loading them.
 

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What do the spent casings look like? One of my carbines has a loose chamber and you can see the soot on the side of the spent shell casing.
 
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What do the spent casings look like? One of my carbines has a loose chamber and you can see the soot on the side of the spent shell casing.

No soot on the spent cases. Looks like a normal piece of brass. I've only been shooting some pretty stout 124gr loads. I'm gonna try to experiment with a different weight recoil spring. Maybe the gun is coming out of lockup a bit sooner than it's supposed to? That's what a few people recommended on the CZ Forum anyways. I have no idea if that's what's actually happening or not though.
 
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No soot on the spent cases. Looks like a normal piece of brass. I've only been shooting some pretty stout 124gr loads. I'm gonna try to experiment with a different weight recoil spring. Maybe the gun is coming out of lockup a bit sooner than it's supposed to? That's what a few people recommended on the CZ Forum anyways. I have no idea if that's what's actually happening or not though.

I put a heavier spring in the Jericho and it still gets carbon all over the magazine. But you might have better luck with a real CZ.
 
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I put a heavier spring in the Jericho and it still gets carbon all over the magazine. But you might have better luck with a real CZ.

I've been meaning to ask you, when you had the P-07 you had it setup for SAO right? How was the safety on it? Is it a pretty positive click to engage/disengage like a 1911? I've been debating on switching it back over to SAO instead of DA/SA until I order some CGW goodies for it.
 

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I've been meaning to ask you, when you had the P-07 you had it setup for SAO right? How was the safety on it? Is it a pretty positive click to engage/disengage like a 1911? I've been debating on switching it back over to SAO instead of DA/SA until I order some CGW goodies for it.

The safety does have a nice positive click when you move it. It's a bit too low profile for me, but it works.
 
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The safety does have a nice positive click when you move it. It's a bit too low profile for me, but it works.

Hmmm, I didn't really think about that. That might be kinda tough to manipulate in a high stress situation. The decocker is pretty low profile too and hard to hit with one hand or without adjusting your grip. Now that you say that I'll probably leave it in its DA/SA configuration.
 
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Hmmm, I didn't really think about that. That might be kinda tough to manipulate in a high stress situation. The decocker is pretty low profile too and hard to hit with one hand or without adjusting your grip. Now that you say that I'll probably leave it in its DA/SA configuration.

Which is why I changed it
 
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I loved everything about my P07 except the ridiculously low slide profile. Damn thing was impossible to manipulate if my hands were sweaty.
 

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I loved everything about my P07 except the ridiculously low slide profile. Damn thing was impossible to manipulate if my hands were sweaty.

The P-07 slide feels huge compared to the CZ 75 slide. The good thing about both of them is the fact that they have berry aggressive cocking serrations that really bite into your hand.
 

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Cleaning a few guns tonight after my 3rd range trip without cleaning them. I don't know what it is about CZ's but they seem to get a lot more dirty than other guns with roughly the same round count shooting the same ammo. The magazines get a bunch of shit all over them too, to the point where they won't drop free anymore and you have to strip them out of the gun. Just cleaned the P-07 and my designated range mags for it and I used about 4 or 5 wipes per magazine to get them clean inside and out. They drop free with no issues now after cleaning them though. :noidea:
Wonder how much shit is in the mag well and release?