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so now the my AR is getting closer to being done I need a way to keep it safe from my son but still have quick access.
There used to be the sentry home defense center but it looks like it's discontinued.

I'm more concerned with keeping my son from getting to it then theft. What do y'all do with your HD rifles or shotguns?

I'm kinda thinking I may just have to build a rack in my closet high enough he can't reach it. (He's only 14 months old)
 

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so now the my AR is getting closer to being done I need a way to keep it safe from my son but still have quick access.
There used to be the sentry home defense center but it looks like it's discontinued.

I'm more concerned with keeping my son from getting to it then theft. What do y'all do with your HD rifles or shotguns?

I'm kinda thinking I may just have to build a rack in my closet high enough he can't reach it. (He's only 14 months old)
The rack wont last long, they grow fast and get curios just as fast. My 3 yr old boy is like a ninja, sneaks around super quiet, then when we know he is up to something. Im in for suggestions as all mine are in my safe.
 

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bolt closed on an empty chamber with the safety on. Since the AR isn't drop safe this is how it should be stored anyway, but there is no way a small child is going to chamber a round. By the time they are able to you will have other things to consider. Hopefully by that point you have instilled good gun safety techniques into them.
 

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I just found this

http://www.center-of-mass.com/Store_ShotLock.htm

It should do the trick. We're planning on selling our house next year, but my wife has already given me the go ahead to do several of the tactical wall things in our next house. She liked the idea of a hidden handgun in main rooms and quick access to others in our bedroom.
 

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bolt closed on an empty chamber with the safety on. Since the AR isn't drop safe this is how it should be stored anyway, but there is no way a small child is going to chamber a round. By the time they are able to you will have other things to consider. Hopefully by that point you have instilled good gun safety techniques into them.

I agree, this is more my wife being concerned. Now that he's walking she's freaked out about my pocket knives and guns not being totally locked up.

I've thought about just keeping it on a shelf in the closet with the mag out. It wouldn't be the first gun I grab anyway so if I have time to go to the closet for it then I should have time to put a mag in.
 

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I'm dead set against locking up a gun that I intend to use for self or home defense. As far as I'm concerned, once it has a lock it's no longer a viable option for personal defense. I also don't want an intruder or curious repairman to stumble across it either. I prefer out of sight and out of toddler reach.
 
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This is what my dad did when I was about 5.

He took all of the guns out of the gun cabinet, unloaded them and laid them out of the living room floor. He sat back in his chair and said, "have at it". "point them in a safe direction and keep your finger off of the trigger, but touch and feel them all you want". I did.....for about an hour. I cycled bolts on rifles I hadn't been allowed to handle, cocked hammers, cycled levers, groped and played with everything laid out on the floor. When I was done he said "now that your curiosity is satisfied, you'll never touch them again unless I'm with you, or I say you can take one out".
That worked for me...nobody questioned my dad, and you certainly didn't purposely invoke his wrath.

I don't know if that'd work today though.
 
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Once he's big enough to learn he's going to be taught safety from the very beginning. This is more to keep little baby hands from figuring things out.

I like @NWS way, he shouldn't be able to chamber a round and flip the safety off. Those plus keeping it out of reach should be enough.
 

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I'm with @NWS and @Laufen. I think most of the "accidental" shootings by children are because firearms were hidden away from the kids like they're porn. They find the poorly hidden revolver and that's the first time they handle a gun, or even knew there was one in the house.
 

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I'm with @NWS and @Laufen. I think most of the "accidental" shootings by children are because firearms were hidden away from the kids like they're porn. They find the poorly hidden revolver and that's the first time they handle a gun, or even knew there was one in the house.
Yeah, trying to insulate kids from all kinds of things often has the opposite effect that parents were going for.
 

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I'm with @NWS and @Laufen. I think most of the "accidental" shootings by children are because firearms were hidden away from the kids like they're porn. They find the poorly hidden revolver and that's the first time they handle a gun, or even knew there was one in the house.
I got my first .22 for Christmas when I was 8. I kept it under my bed in my room. My brother is 3 years older than me and that's where he kept his shotgun as well. There's definitely something to be said for training and accountability, as well as a good healthy fear of your father.
 

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my dad:

"here's a bb gun, if you fuck this up you'll never touch that BAR-22 I bought you the year before you were born. and don't shoot your sister with this either."
 

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Yeah, trying to insulate kids from all kinds of things often has the opposite effect that parents were going for.
That's part of the problem with society today. Kids are growing to be adults who are either scared of or offended by anything they are not comfortable or familiar with.
 

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I agree. When he's older he will be exposed to guns. But he's only 14 months old. so it's not a teaching or comfort issue. It's a safety issue.
 
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