Uncanny resemblance

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mukwah

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I was giving my new 1911 a good cleaning last night and I couldn't help but notice the uncanny resemblance to my Ruger P94 .40Cal.

Here are some pics showing both. The main difference I notice is in thickness, as the .40 is a double stack mag, and in the trigger.

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Two very nice handguns, for sure! You're going to love the 1911. Do I dare wish you a Happy B-Day again? Oh well, caution to the wind...Happy B-Day & enjoy! Yogi 8)
 

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I was curious to check these puppies out so I cleaned up the photos. I have a stack or two of old and new firearms and always appreciate their differences.

They do have some commonalities but there are some differences. The time honored 1911 classic design something to behold. But the Ruger P-94 is evolution at work.

The big common thing is that Ruger modeled their action around manual safety model of the 1911. With a tilt barrel design and with locking barrels and slides at the time of firing. That’s an internal thing.

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I own several 45’s, here are 3 1911 styles and 1 Standard 45 ACP. It’s a Haskell, but looked pretty much like what Browning had in mind with his first designed. No hammer spur and no exposed hammer. The Military insisted he add these changes.

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Even after the 1911 became what we know it as today, there were changes made in what became the 1911 A1 or Commander Models. Here’s an illustration of the differences.

That’s a great pair of guns you have there, with some individual characteristics worth noting.
 
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Thanks for the chart, lota work there and good info. Man, I really enjoy all the knowledge on this forum!
 

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You are quite welcome. I'm the Village Idiot compared to some folks on this and other forums. I got started collecting firearms a few years back and have done a lot of research. That attention to detail thing or an OCD drives me nuts sometimes.

How the handgun evolved from the early days when it was black powder being stuffed down the barrel of a single shot pistol, then into cylinders (Sam Colt) followed by cartridges (Elias White/Smith &Wesson) caught my attention. Along come semi-automatics in the early 1900s and both them and revolvers evolved accordingly. I've bought more than a few of them in the process. But it's more "fun" than stamps. Here are the two oldest gals in my collection.

Above is a Colt Model 1849 Pocket Pistol, made in 1860, which later evolved into the Colt Police Positive Revolver. Loads of changes along the way. So comparing one gun to another is like matching Chevy's, Fords, VWs and BMWs, designed and built to suit different tastes.

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Here's a S&W Model 1 2nd Issue it was a flip top, which was followed by Break Tops and the Swing Out Cylinders. During the Civil War soldiers went off to war with a S&W 22 or 32 Caliber revolver stuffed in their pocket as a Back Up Gun. The US Army even bought a few for Artillery Troops to carry in lieu of rifles. This one was made in 1865.

Anyway I'm getting into a rant here but if you want to get into a little history or take a real close look at firearms have at it. There's load of stuff out there.
 
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Would it be fair to say that these "oldies" were fairly inaccurate Bill?

Ray
 

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The sights were barely there and they were really up close and personal kind of gals to say the least. But be it on a Civil War Battlefield or looking at a whole bunch of Indians I' rather have either than a single shot black powder pistol. The sights on the Colt were a pin on the front and a V slot cut into the cylinder. Sight adjustment involved using a file.

I've never fired either of these two old ladies but have fired the 3 Italian Reproductions made from modern steel versus the metal they used in the old shooting irons. I have a thing for 1851 Colt Navy Revolvers but prefer the Uberti Replica of the 1871 Richards-Mason Conversion, made to fire 38 Special Rounds.