SD tactical shut down by ATF for solvent traps

[PewPewPewCo]

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/01/26/breaking-sd-tactical-shut-selling-solvent-trap-parts/

These are the guys that essentially were selling a bunch of separate parts to make a suppressor.

 

[permaneo vox]

Misleading post is misleading. They were told to stop selling 80% components by their IOI. Not the same as being raided.

 

[PewPewPewCo]

Misleading post is misleading. They were told to stop selling 80% components by their IOI. Not the same as being raided.

ah good to know. Usually TFB is better with that stuff, guess they jumped the gun

 

[permaneo vox]

They still have theirFFL, still open for business.

 

[dougiemac]

Who bets they have to turn over their sales records and a lot of people get visits from the BATFE?

 

[cbh13]

whew was about to get pissed as I've been planning on getting some parts for the for a suppressor build sometime soon

edit well fuck I was hoping they just had some solvent catches they had to stop selling not all of the components. I wonder how they can tell them to stop selling them if they are selling them with the intention for folks to make a homemade can and form 1 it?

 

[Laufen]

Who bets they have to turn over their sales records and a lot of people get visits from the BATFE?

Garnnnnteed

 

[PewPewPewCo]

 

[permaneo vox]

Who bets they have to turn over their sales records and a lot of people get visits from the BATFE?

Not yet, according to their Facebook page.

 

[Laufen]

 

[DMR]

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/01/26/breaking-sd-tactical-shut-selling-solvent-trap-parts/

These are the guys that essentially were selling a bunch of separate parts to make a suppressor.

AutoZone sells oil filters. Maybe the ATF should shut them all down too since people can use them as suppressors.

 

[Laufen]

AutoZone sells oil filters. Maybe the ATF should shut them all down too since people can use them as suppressors.

But they function as an oil filter.

 

[DMR]

But they function as an oil filter.

So, you're ok with ATF going after a vendor that sells oil filters if a user gets caught using it as unlicensed suppressor?

 

[Laufen]

So, you're ok with ATF going after a vendor that sells oil filters if a user gets caught using it as unlicensed suppressor?

Take a wild guess. It sounds to me like the reason the ATF shut them down is because they are manufacturing parts that people are regularly using to manufacture a silencer without paying the stamp. That's not the case with oil filters I guess that most people that buy an oil filter are using it on their fucking car.

 

[DMR]

Take a wild guess. It sounds to me like the reason the ATF shut them down is because they are manufacturing parts that people are regularly using to manufacture a silencer without paying the stamp. That's not the case with oil filters I guess that most people that buy an oil filter are using it on their fucking car.

Fuck the ATF. Unless the shop was directly involved in making and selling illegal silencers, then on what legal grounds does the ATF stand? Shouldn't they be going after individuals?

 

[Laufen]

Fuck the ATF. Unless the shop was directly involved in making and selling illegal silencers, then on what legal grounds does the ATF stand? Shouldn't they be going after individuals?

. Did I say they shouldn't go after individuals?

 

[DMR]

. Did I say they shouldn't go after individuals?

Make yourself clear then, instead me asking you to further elaborate what exactly you mean.

I frankly think ATF is using mafia style intimidation and tactics to go after perfectly legal businesses breaking no laws, so fuck them.

I'm pretty clear.

 

[PewPewPewCo]

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Eh.... they're asking an executive to call off an executive branch entity, that's a sum negative gov IMO

 

[PewPewPewCo]

Make yourself clear then, instead me asking you to further elaborate what exactly you mean.

I frankly think ATF is using mafia style intimidation and tactics to go after perfectly legal businesses breaking no laws, so fuck them.

I'm pretty clear.

I'll be honest, laws on suppressor parts are a blurry field and SD tactical has danced in that blurry area. As long as the current laws and regs are what they are this isn't all that damning of the ATF.

 

[PewPewPewCo]

Fuck the ATF. Unless the shop was directly involved in making and selling illegal silencers, then on what legal grounds does the ATF stand? Shouldn't they be going after individuals?

Let's be honest, that shop was directly involved in selling parts designed to make suppressors. The only question here isn't really intent but if each individual part is ruled to be 80%. How that's decided is bogus though, there's a need for more bright line rules for 80 percent stuff period