If you shoot thumb over bore, something like that really does make it more comfortable. Most people that use them, though; use them in a manner other than in which they were designed.
^^ Clearly doesn't operate. ^^
^^ Clearly doesn't operate. ^^
Thumb over bore, also known as the C-Clamp. It was something that Chris Costa pushed really hard in all those samurai DVD's that Magpul made a couple of years back.
The AVG's out there are designed to allow your hand to open up a little more and have less "clamp" in them. Whereas his fingers are flat in this picture, if he had an AVG, it would allow more purchase on the rifle with less "effort" from the hand.
I don't shoot TOB, but then again, I also don't own Peltors, Oakley's, or any attitude apparel so what do I know.
I've tried it a few times on a few different rifles. For me, it starts to get into my offhand shoulder after awhile. I'm not a little guy and my shoulders are pretty big, as are my arms. Getting my offhand arm that high on the rifle creates a lot of torque in my offhand shoulder. It's not unbearable, but I couldn't maintain it for any length of time, much less as a training habit.
^^ Clearly doesn't operate. ^^
Thumb over bore, also known as the C-Clamp. It was something that Chris Costa pushed really hard in all those samurai DVD's that Magpul made a couple of years back.
The AVG's out there are designed to allow your hand to open up a little more and have less "clamp" in them. Whereas his fingers are flat in this picture, if he had an AVG, it would allow more purchase on the rifle with less "effort" from the hand.
I don't shoot TOB, but then again, I also don't own Peltors, Oakley's, or any attitude apparel so what do I know.
Costa really brought the whole c-clamp grip thing to the forefront. And the AFG was originally introduced as part of their "theory" product line along with the BAD lever. People were absolutely obsessed with anything he was doing for a few years. It was ridiculous. Oddly enough, he abandoned the AFG and BAD lever on his own guns. Guess they weren't as useful as we thought.
He still uses the high wrist angle, straight forearm, c-clamp grip. I tried it for a short while in addition to handstops. It didn't work for me at all. Greater fatigue and not comfortable in practical use. I went back to my tried and true short VFG. It allows me a more comfortable 3/4 grip on the rail, better rearward pressure into my shoulder and more versatile hand placement. I think the c-clamp may be useful in competition, because it does seem to offer a little more control and with enough practice may offer better split times. That's fine when a stage lasts a few minutes. But it doesn't work so well after a full day on the range, with varying shooting positions, transitions, etc.
ETA: Remember when he was covering himself in tape? That was pretty entertaining.
Hahaha! It seemed like the longer he was using it, the more he applied. If you've ever had that stuff applied for physical therapy, it sucks. Had it applied to my back for two weeks once. It hurt like heck the first few days.
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