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    Votes: 10 41.7%
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    Votes: 6 25.0%

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Rabbit2047

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Gonna be there tomorrow too ?

You can meet me and Stegman for food. Some of the best tacos in ATL are right next to you.

Best Burrito in ATL is at the farmers market. Not only is their kitchen immaculately clean, it's also damn good food with generous portions and the prices are unbelievably low

Don Burrito is like a Subway for Burritos
 

Grunk

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What does it mean that M1A is screwed and glued.
@Jeddak, I'm sure @Balthaz & @Rabbit2047 can answer this more clearly but I'll take a stab at it. M14 style rifles are traditionally not as accurate with a free float barrel. The front band is sandwiched between the gas cylinder and the barrel shoulder, & it will move around a bit on a standard rifle, creating inconsistent barrel tension. Many years ago, military rifle teams developed methods of "unitizing" the gas system & front band. This means the front band is attached solidly to the gas cylinder resulting in the same barrel tension shot after shot.

The "Army method" is to anneal the gas system to make it soft enough & 2 holes are drilled. The face of the front band is epoxied to the gas cylinder. It is then screwed using 2 screws which are then staked/peened, hence "screwed & glued. The drawback is the spindle valve is no longer operable to shut off the gas system due to the screws. Since the primary reason for shutting off the gas system was launching rifle grenades, this didn't matter to the rifle competition teams.

The "Marine Corps method" (better because my Marine father said so) has the front band welded to the gas cylinder. Whether this is done on the outside diameter or another way depends on who does the work. Also depending on who does the work welds can be readily visible. Some people don't like the appearance of the welds. Spindle valve is still operable to shut off the gas system.

Both methods have to be done in a jig to ensure proper alignment. It's usually easier to find people who can do the "screw & glue".
 
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Rabbit2047

NOT Joe Exotic, Ted Nugent, or Joe Dirt
Kalash Klub
Jan 3, 2020
13,450
77,648
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Statham, GA
@Jeddak, I'm sure @Balthaz & @Rabbit2047 can answer this more clearly but I'll take a stab at it. M14 style rifles are traditionally not as accurate with a free float barrel. The front band is sandwiched between the gas cylinder and the barrel shoulder, & it will move around a bit on a standard rifle, creating inconsistent barrel tension. Many years ago, military rifle teams developed methods of "unitizing" the gas system & front band. This means the front band is attached solidly to the gas cylinder resulting in the same barrel tension shot after shot.

The "Army method" is to anneal the gas system to make it soft enough & 2 holes are drilled. The face of the front band is epoxied to the gas cylinder. It is then screwed using 2 screws which are then staked/peened, hence "screwed & glued. The drawback is the spindle valve is no longer operable to shut off the gas system due to the screws. Since the primary reason for shutting off the gas system was launching rifle grenades, this didn't matter to the rifle competition teams.

The "Marine Corps method" (better because my Marine father said so) has the front band is welded to the gas cylinder. Whether this is done on the outside diameter or another way depends on who does the work. Also depending on who does the work welds can be readily visible. Some people don't like the appearance of the welds. Spindle valve is still operable to shut off the gas system.

Both methods have to be done in a jig to ensure proper alignment. It's usually easier to find people who can do the "screw and glue".

This is absolutely correct. Years ago there was company making a clamp on stabilizing brace that affixed the band to the gas cylinder, but they required lots of hand fitting and I have only seen two of them in my life.