barrel or can length?The length required for significant suppression makes this unpractical. I'd rather just have a slightly larger bore to avoid blow back
Can length.barrel or can length?
there were more advantages than just gas in your face
also the mentions of the what seems like zero concussion right at the end of the can. then the reliability with full auto guns, not that that would affect me at all lolCan length.
Is the other benefit POI shift?
The recoil reduction is not specific to this suppressor, all suppressors have hat effect due to added weight and the fact that the initial Blast outside of the muzzle is contained
Low back pressure is what makes full auto "reliable" it helps to not rocket the bolt back super fast. Again a slightly over bore can would solve this.also the mentions of the what seems like zero concussion right at the end of the can. then the reliability with full auto guns, not that that would affect me at all lol
Dont get me wrong, at what seems to be the market rate for his older cans, and guessing what the new ones will go for, the benefits dont at all seem worth it. They are benefits nonetheless
didnt realize this, your previous statement makes more sense now.Low back pressure is what makes full auto "reliable" it helps to not rocket the bolt back super fast. Again a slightly over bore can would solve this.
i thought it was more about the unburnt gas exiting more than sound, but i guess there is a correlation there. sitting here googling it I but I cant find crap mostly because of the mass amount of fictional weapons with 'concussion' in the name... I did find something here http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1288/00005537-193810000-00002/abstract but its $6 to rent lol... no thanks. looks like ill take your word for it for now.Concussion at the end of the can is generally going to be measured by sound pressure levels, so that would just come down to suppression.
Which is why running an Octane 45 HD works on the M11/9Low back pressure is what makes full auto "reliable" it helps to not rocket the bolt back super fast. Again a slightly over bore can would solve this.
Concussion at the end of the can is generally going to be measured by sound pressure levels, so that would just come down to suppression.
They've been out for at least a year and have been a total flop. Jake's got them for something like $650. Dealers practically can't give them away.I like it. its something new.
its just waaaaaay over engineered for a problem with a simple fix.They've been out for at least a year and have been a total flop. Jake's got them for something like $650. Dealers practically can't give them away.
why is it a flop? at $650 it seems very reasonable.They've been out for at least a year and have been a total flop. Jake's got them for something like $650. Dealers practically can't give them away.
Well, retail on them was something like $1400, for starters. And as @PewPewPewCo mentioned, they add a lot of length. The reflex model has a crazy adapter / flash hider that reflexes back over the barrel and looks like a cheese grater. And, they don't suppress nearly as well as that video would have you believe. Their big selling point is minimal bolt velocity increase. Well, when the can doesn't suppress worth a crap, that's not hard to accomplish.why is it a flop? at $650 it seems very reasonable.
serious question
Shoooooooot! They can give one away and I will take it!They've been out for at least a year and have been a total flop. Jake's got them for something like $650. Dealers practically can't give them away.