What's the best value? Not looking to spend trijicon money so what are my options? Burris FF3 & Vortex Viper seem popular. What should I look for in an optic?
Optic for Glock 19
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I want one with an RMR but it's WAY out of my price range.
Long term I want a G17 or 34 with a TLR-1, threaded barrel, reddot and suppressor sights I can see through the optic. That's my dream bedside pistol.
Long term I want a G17 or 34 with a TLR-1, threaded barrel, reddot and suppressor sights I can see through the optic. That's my dream bedside pistol.
If you want it as a range gun or competition piece, I see it. If you're wanting it for a carry piece, I don't recommend it. The technology just ain't there quite yet.
Why do you feel that way? Maybe you mean specifically for the cheaper options that OP is looking for?
Everyone's training and abilities differ, but I'm really no faster with a reflex on a pistol than I am with irons and I know a lot of guys with the cool guy badges and tabs in the same boat.
On the other hand, I'm less accurate, but much faster with a RDS on a carbine. Much faster.
It's all about risk/benefit analysis in my book and a reflex on a pistol just doesn't make the cut.
I'm light years faster and more accurate with the reflex on both pistols and rifles. Idk why
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How fast? Say, inside the 9 ring at 7yds with pistol from the holster? Open sights are a wonderful thing.
I'm talking reliability and maintaining zero, even on the more expensive units. I just have not found these 2 issues to be fixed yet, even when using optics like the Trijicon RMR. I believe that eventually we will get there, but we ain't there yet. If we were, good chance I'd have one on my G19.
With the exceptions of folks like Suarez, none of the well-known Instructors are touting or using RDS's on their carry guns, even though several will say that they can shooter faster, accurately, with a RDS mounted on the slide. Wonder why? The Instructors I've talked to (folks like Ken Hackathorn) have done more testing with this system than I have, and found it lacking over long term in the same areas I have: reliability and maintaining zero.
There's a reason that units like FBI HRT, "Delta", MARSOC, and similar are not running RDS's on their handguns. They will one day, but it won't be this year.
A RDS takes a lot more beating on a G17 than it ever would on say an AR in .450 Bushmaster. All that back-and-forth slamming of the slide ain't good for them.
Ahhh that I can appreciate. I don't believe o shoot nearly enough for that. I have probably a thousand rounds or so through my 19 with the RMR and it has held up fine. But I'm sure someone like you uses your handguns a looot more.
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Vortex Viper or Burris FF3 for under $250. I prefer the Vortex, but the FF3 auto on/off is nice. The Vortex is sturdier felling though and I see the dot a bit more crisply.
Don't cheap out and go with the Primary Arms MRDS - they fall apart almost instantly on a pistol.
Other options -
Vortex Razor - a bit pricier, but seems tougher IMHO. Love mine (on an AR at the moment, played with it for a few hundred rds on a 45 through a couple range trips though and it performed flawlessly)
Doctor - no experience, but highly regarded
Leupold Delta point - no experience
I am not a fan of the Burris FF2
Don't cheap out and go with the Primary Arms MRDS - they fall apart almost instantly on a pistol.
Other options -
Vortex Razor - a bit pricier, but seems tougher IMHO. Love mine (on an AR at the moment, played with it for a few hundred rds on a 45 through a couple range trips though and it performed flawlessly)
Doctor - no experience, but highly regarded
Leupold Delta point - no experience
I am not a fan of the Burris FF2