Nambu Type 94 - reminds me of a Ruger

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A friend and I were out making the rounds this afternoon and getting lunch. I walked into a local gun shop. The fellow's who worked there exclaimed "Man have we got something for you!" He walks around to the back and comes out with... A Japanese WWII Nambu, Type 94, 8 mm pistol. It was in great shape. It was designed by a fellow named Kijiro Nambu. Who back engineered it off a German Luger.

Later on two Americans got one off a US Marine, who had acquired it in the Pacific during WWII, while Island Hopping. Strom and Ruger were working out of a garage back then in 1948. They loved the little semi-automatic so much, they used it to design the and produce what became known as the Standard. Later to become the Mark Series. Based on their initial success, they started producing other firearms and the rest is history.

I recognized the first Kanji marks as being from an armory in Japan. Having owned an Arisaka Rifle. It uses a numbering system that shows the year and month of the Sho or Showa Empire, which was Emperor Hirohito's reign. It's a Type 94, which means it was adopted in the year 2594 by the Japanese Calendar.

The 12 - 11 stamp says that it was produced in November 1937. There is a final inspection mark, followed by the mark of the Nagoya Arsenal and the Company Logo of Chuo Kogyo, who inherited the company after Nambu died. That's on the right side.

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On this picture the three marks next to the screw are simply the model designations, They read Kyu-yon-shiki or Type 34. Next to the safety lever are markings for "Safe" and "Fire"

These little jewels are ill reputed. If you have a round in the chamber and press the exposed trigger bar on the left hand side of the receiver, unless the safety is on, the weapon will fire. Later on as WWII progressed and materials became scarce, product quality dropped. But the Japanese military carried them through out the war.

They only produced 72,000 of these weapons from 1934 to 1945. They are hard to find especially with matching numbers on the frame and the magazine. Mine was a spare magazine.

This one will probably not get a range trip. I'd been keeping my eye out for one for years but they were way over priced at the local gun shows and I've never seen one in a local shop.
 
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Thanks Slowhand! Really enjoyed the read, pics and history lesson!

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The young fellow that handles their sales department is a great guy. He's also a Range Rat, which goes in line with his being a Vet and served in Iraq. We talk a lot of guns stuff. But he's more into the modern stuff but knows that I'm a collector. He also knew what he had his hand on and would have bought it himself, if he hadn't had to get some repairs done of his car.

He did not know how to read the Kanji Marks but had enough sense to break out the Blue Book and get educated. I sure as heck recognized the Great Grand Daddy of my Ruger Mark III, and in great condition. As long as they kept the price reasonable, it was coming home.
 

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I 've mentioned before that my dad had one that he had brought back form Okinawa during WW11. It was the larger model...and it is gone!. I think that my brother might have it ...but he's not talking. :-\ Really wish i had it. Thanks for the share.
 

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SkipD said:
Very interesting. I don't think I've ever seen such detailed photos or descriptions before.

Thanks.

Some folks do stamps, I do firearms. On some of the old stuff, like the Colts, S&Ws, Ivor Johnsons, H&Rs, Mosin Nagants and Remington's, I could write a book on. I create a folder for my acquisitions, with photographs, history and relevant information. It helps with the insurance.

The Nambu has been one of those pieces that I have being keeping an eye out for years. I have a ton of historical information on them. Bill Ruger also had a Luger that was involved in his process and I'd love to show you a picture of them all three side by side. Not slamming Ruger, he came up with loads of innovations on his own. His renditions of Colt revolvers. and rifles speak volumes.

I own a stack of firearms both old and new. This one falls into the category of a curio & relic. There are some folks out there who get obsessed with firearms from a certain era or a certain manufacturer. Over the years I have acquired a small representative collection. I know guys who have turned rooms in their houses into walk in safes and have stacks of antiques hanging on the walls and on table tops, with racks just full of antiques and art.

I've started to become more selective lately due to space limitations. But, I own more firearms that most of the local gun shops in my area. One just has to start to say no. This one was too good to pass up.
 

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framedcraig1 said:
I 've mentioned before that my dad had one that he had brought back form Okinawa during WW11. It was the larger model...and it is gone!. I think that my brother might have it ...but he's not talking. :-\ Really wish i had it. Thanks for the share.

Nambu Pistols came in Types and different sizes. Type 14s were bigger, Type 94, Hamada Nambu and the Baby Nambu's were smaller. The older the manufacture date the more expensive they get.

Baby Nambus are really hard to find. Depending on the condition and shape they are in $1,500 to $4,500. Type 94s 12.X Dates like mine run from $375. to $1,000 unless of course you're at a Gun Show or on Gun Broker. Then things can get crazy.

Type 14's were the larger ones. You start jumping into the Hamada variations and the 1893 Models and the prices go up 25%, 50% and 400%. Unless I run into one at a garage or estate sale, I'm not going there.
 

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I'm going to a gun show this weekend and will be checking to see if I cam get some for it.

But the Japanese Military issued orders to their folks not to chamber a round until they were ready to fire the weapon. It seems that merely flipping the safety to off or fire position would cause this weapon to fire. That external sear was notorious. So if you went to holster the weapon and had one in the chamber, you had to take it out.

So if she ever gets to a range, I plan on being extra careful.
 

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Oh, it's NOT a .22 long rifle rimfire. After hearing how the Ruger Standard was based on the Nambu, you'd think the were the same. Oh well, if you get any ammo, post a pic and we'll keep an eye out for some more.
 
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Just curious, how large is it in comparison to the Ruger Standard?

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LOL. Do little reading guys. Here’s a brief history on the Nambu, the Ruger Standard, the Luger and also Colt (Woodsman) all which played a part in Strum & Ruger getting it all lined out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nambu_pistol

First the Japanese Nambu.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruger_Standard

Second the Ruger Standard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luger_P08_pistol

Then the German Luger.

Although Ruger built 2 copies of the Nambu, he opted to just use the Nambu silhouette and bolt system.
He also had a Luger around and the Standard wound up having what is described as an aesthetic and slight resemblance to the Luger.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Woodsman

He also borrowed a few things from Colt’s semi-automatic design for their Woodsman. Which brings John Moses Browning into the picture.

The innovations Ruger introduced piano wire coiled springs, while most manufacturers were still using flat springs. Ruger also machined a two part frame that was made from two stamped sheet metal halves being welded.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturm,_Ruger

Some history of Strum & Ruger.

His production costs were reduced greatly compared to his competitors, combined with his marketing skills led to the production of what is rated as the best selling 22LR Semi-automatic rim fires in the world.

Since I started collecting firearms, I've been motivated to do a little digging beyond the Owners Instruction Manual. I like to find out some history behind them. How they got designed and what common characteristics or differences they share with comparable models. Usually when I buy something , I've done a ton of research before I get it. I'm up to 50 revolvers and pistols at this point. Stamps or coins would have been easier, but they'd hardly be useful on a range trip.