There's no going back to an older version of the country. The world has evolved, the country has evolved, and frankly we eliminated a lot of shit I don't want back.
Hopefully this can stay in general discussion
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He deregulated the airlines and trucking industry, made it legal to make uturns and make rights on red, and hired Paul Volker to head the Fed. He could've been worse.
I have to say I was lost when I read this. What does giving up what I work for have to do with restraining an oppressive Govt?
Perhaps I misread?
The founders gave up their fortunes (actually they pledged their "lives, fortunes and sacred honor" to one another and the country. I guess nobody read the Declaration all the way to the end) which is why they all died penniless. Their families got nothing. A couple of their estates went to the State (Jefferson, Washington). They pledged everything for the Union. Would you? Doesn't sound like it.
It has more to do with restructuring the way we think about government, re-thinking our consumerism and the way the health of a country and it's credit rating is based soley on it's consumption and production. Sometimes you need a forest fire to accomplish what some people with rakes and trash bags cannot.
Well, the legal part is a big deal. Now we have massive, widespread violations of civil rights and there's not a damned thing you can do about it.
Thanks for both responses. I see it a bit different the Founding Fathers wanted to be free of opression. "The Union" is the oppressor.
I give up a tremendous amount in the form of taxes to a Federal Govt that takes it and sends it to others for their support so no I am not thrilled about giving anymore to get more of what we have. Sacrificing for that which the Founding Fathers fought and died for , perhaps.
Laufen to your post, I do not disagree in principle. I have missed a huge stock market run in part because I do not believe that "our economy" is solid. However neither is the USD.
Atlas may soon shrug.
I give up a tremendous amount in the form of taxes to a Federal Govt that takes it and sends it to others for their support so no I am not thrilled about giving anymore to get more of what we have. Sacrificing for that which the Founding Fathers fought and died for , perhaps.
Laufen to your post, I do not disagree in principle. I have missed a huge stock market run in part because I do not believe that "our economy" is solid. However neither is the USD.
Atlas may soon shrug.
Legal does not equate to moral or right.
I do not agree with it its just now out of the shadows. Big Brother has always thought it knows whats best for us. Big Brother is wrong.
I agree, and that's why I loathe the Patriot Act. Fact is it's legal, and that's what matters to the law, not a subjective "right" or "wrong".