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@Jake like you’ve noticed already, a biodegradable lube will breakdown and effectively “disappear” over time. I don’t use them for that reason.
 
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Right, but I'm just wondering if there's any advantages/disadvantages to it being biodegradable.

I had a little bit of spare time this morning so I took my LCP II apart and looked at it. It's been about 2 months since I've cleaned or shot it and the barrel and a few small parts that I used that CLP on was pretty much dry. The frame rails that I used the Breakthrough Battle Born Grease on was still exactly where I put it. It was a little bit dirty from pocket lint/dust but it wiped right off and I put some more on it. I guess that's one down side to the grease is it attracts/holds a lot more of that kind of stuff. It's easy enough to wipe off and reapply though and it doesn't run and get everywhere unlike the CLP.


I was just kidding... ;)


The only bad experience I've had with gun grease is the Hoppes "Gun Grease"... I considered it "long term storage" material. I coated a 10/22 down inside with the stuff. Years and years later, I took it out, cycled the bolt, and it stuck to the rear. Completely stuck. The solvents had evaporated from the gun grease and it was the consistency of really sticky, hard bubblegum.

I quit using it all together after that.

No rust on the 10/22 though.
 
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It's less fucky for mother earth gaia.

Yes, in principle... I remember the Mercedes Benz innovative idea to use biodegradable insulation on their wiring harnesses. Yup. Well, the wiring harness started biodegrading waaaayyy before the drive train.

This was according to a friend who (years ago) had about a 1992 model that required a new wiring harness- this was what the dealership told him. Maybe it's BS, I don't know. But I also don't like certain things to be prone to degrading.
 

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Yes, in principle... I remember the Mercedes Benz innovative idea to use biodegradable insulation on their wiring harnesses. Yup. Well, the wiring harness started biodegrading waaaayyy before the drive train.

This was according to a friend who (years ago) had about a 1992 model that required a new wiring harness- this was what the dealership told him. Maybe it's BS, I don't know. But I also don't like certain things to be prone to degrading.
Volvo did the same thing.
 
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Sounds like it might be true then. I almost didn't believe him, but didn't care enough to research it.
I think they stopped in 1987 or 88. I remember my 89 Volvo 240 was one of the first that didn't have it in that era.
 

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@Jake like you’ve noticed already, a biodegradable lube will breakdown and effectively “disappear” over time. I don’t use them for that reason.

Yeah, I think I'll stick to the regular old BreakFree CLP that I've been using. Like I said, I got those sample size tubes for free so I decided I'd give them a try, and they fit great in my range bag. My LCP didn't feel "dry" but I normally apply a ton of CLP to it so it didn't have that wet shine to it like regular old generic CLP does. I think this stuff is alright if you clean and lube your guns often but I definitely wouldn't use it to try to keep grandpa's old heirloom guns oiled up in the safe for years at a time before reapplying.
 

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I'm going to try mixing bacon grease and coconut oil. In a pinch it'd be delicious.
 
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Have tons of shit. But for grease and lube I primarily use various Cherry Balm products now.

KG 12 Big Bore copper solvent for copper and lead build up.

Have a couple length graphite or coated rods. Various jags and brushes by caliber, and of course patches. I try not using brushes for the most part.

Also use various bore guides for rifles.

Always carry a thing of zippo fluid to clean out trigger groups if the need arises.
 
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Everyone gets confused on grease and oil in the gun industry. The rest of the world has known the difference for decades. Grease is used in open environments. Oils are used in closed systems with filters. Think of any vehicle or heavy equipment and where each is used.
Grease does not attract dust. But what grease does, and oil does not, is that grease encapsulates and suspends particulate matter, keeping the gunk away from bearing surfaces. Oil does not.
 
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Here's the list I give to my Basic Precision Rifle students. Anyone ever want a hands on tutorial, give me a holler. Bring your rifle over to my shop and we'll knock it out.

BROWNELL'S
VFG 3-pellet adapter 084-000-020
VFG felt pellets, .30 caliber 929-100-300
.30 caliber bore brush, 3 pack 084-401-029
Bore Tech .30 jag 509-000-162
Mil Spec .30 patches 546-100-030
Iosso bore cleaner 072-000-002
MD Labs XF-7 grease 100-002-242 (for folks that are squeamish about using automotive grease)


MIDWAY USA
Tipton Action/Chamber cleaning 109658
Tipton cleaning swabs 115373
Montana Xtreme Copper Killer 6oz: 525120 / 20oz: 525117
Tipton cleaning rod, .27 - .45 caliber 165130


Mike Lucas Bore Guide phone 803-356-0282

I really like the Bore Tech rods as well. Those are what I use.
 
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What's the deal with Zippo fluid? I've never heard of doing that before.

With a trigger like the Remington 700, you can flush it with Zippo fluid and give it a light blow out, or let it set and "drain" for a while. The fluid will flush out gunk and debris and leave behind a light film as a lubricant.

If more folks did this, Remington wouldn't have to defend themselves from a bogus lawsuit every few years.
 

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So what's the consensus on bore-snakes?

I realize it doesn't catch everything and is not meant as a full cleaning alternative, but just curious who uses them and with what solvents/etc
 

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So what's the consensus on bore-snakes?

I realize it doesn't catch everything and is not meant as a full cleaning alternative, but just curious who uses them and with what solvents/etc

I use one on my pistols with some CLP on it.