I did not even bother looking at these for sale until I had the money in hand. These deals are like any other. You can counter with a lower price, just don't try to seriously low ball. The Lage Max-11 sells for $759 and the Lage is $600 new. The fact that this gun is a shooter means that it will run when you get it. An offer of $7000 to $7250 would be a fair offer. Sometimes you can get them to pay for the first transfer tax. Basically, if you bought this, the seller would transfer to someone like QRF. Once that transfer is done, then QRF would transfer it to you. This is where you would pay your $200 tax stamp and transfer fee. I lucked out on mine as the seller also had their C&R license so it was a dealer to dealer transfer. These typically take less time than a standard form 4. I still had to wait through both transfer times but I still had mine in 5 months.