Goodbye M4's, The Army Wants .308's

[dougiemac]

BOOM! Looks like the Army is wanting the .308 Battle Rifle over the M4's. Bring back the noise!

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...-service-rifle-solicitation-released-us-army/

 

[madHatter]

so they couldn't find a glock rifle, gotta go back to a 1911!!!


srsly.... bring out the rail guns and laser blasters already. enough of toying with my emotions

 

[AtlMedic]

This seems like a poor idea to me.

 

[freedom]

Gearing up for the next war. They'll have body armor that 5.56 can't punch.

 

[1776]

The Army really should quite dicking around with compromises. Nobody wants to carry a .308 on a patrol and there's no need.
In my mind, the ideal would be to maintain the M4 for POGs, increase the quantity and quality of SDMs and give them all a solid semi auto 308 while issuing MP7s to people who might actually engage in a CQB scenario. Yeah, it'd be expensive, but it would be efficient.

 

[AtlMedic]

The Army really should quite dicking around with compromises. Nobody wants to carry a .308 on a patrol and there's no need.
In my mind, the ideal would be to maintain the M4 for POGs, increase the quantity and quality of SDMs and give them all a solid semi auto 308 while issuing MP7s to people who might actually engage in a CQB scenario. Yeah, it'd be expensive, but it would be efficient.

I'm not a vet or anything. But this makes sense to me. It seems one of the biggest reasons I've heard to cause the push to a higher power round is that the distance of engagements in Afghanistan.

It seems that for CQB or urban fighting a .308 would be overkill and have the negatives of weight, noise, and over penetration.

 

[Woodstock]

Why not lasers


Seriously, they got rid of the 308 which iirc was used in ww2 and Korea and some in Vietnam, so why the change back?

 

[Rwjeter]

I'm not a vet or anything. But this makes sense to me. It seems one of the biggest reasons I've heard to cause the push to a higher power round is that the distance of engagements in Afghanistan.

It seems that for CQB or urban fighting a .308 would be overkill and have the negatives of weight, noise, and over penetration.

308 does seem like overkill for urban. @1776 has a good point. Train more SDMs and give them the rifle they need to perform at range then in missions that might encounter CQB a lightweight Sub gun that will be agile enough to keep them in the fight. The rest maintains the M4 or similar 5.56.

 

[Mac11FA]

Why not 7.62 x 39? Works great on M4 platform. Of course on the plus side .308 ammo will get cheap once milsurp hits the streets!

 

[ReservoirDawg10]

They need to be looking at 6.5 Grendel for carbines. The SOC is now looking into 6.5 creedmoor and 260 rem for precision rifles.

It's amazing to me how slow the military is to adopt new technology.

 

[Red Dawn]

They need to be looking at 6.5 Grendel for carbines. The SOC is now looking into 6.5 creedmoor and 260 rem for precision rifles.

It's amazing to me how slow the military is to adopt new technology.

Bill Alexander is leaving Alexander Arms to work with the defense. That could be a 6.5 round or 338 magnum who knows.

 

[Red Dawn]

The article is more aimed at the xm1158 ADVAP round IMO. 308 is heavy but a new round for 556 that breaks level IV armor that's more realistic.