Various methods, barriers, distances, calibers, barrel lengths.@oio How do you test the penetration, trajectory, accuracy, velocity etc. with each type/batch of ammo?
Various methods, barriers, distances, calibers, barrel lengths.@oio How do you test the penetration, trajectory, accuracy, velocity etc. with each type/batch of ammo?
That example is covered by just about anything, even inconsistent shit 9mm reloads from your local range.What are your needs based upon, the "average" defense situation? With all of this data and exacting analysis, you should consider carrying a multitude of calibers and ammunition to give yourself the optimal chance of success. That means defending yourself from an adversary wearing a 9% cotton tshirt, driving a car with a windshield raked at 37 degrees, or one that's running toward you at 6.3 miles per hour, wearing a mid-weight redbull sweatshirt, a fake (maybe) gold jesus pendant that covers 17% of the chest region, and purchased pre-precious metal crisis from the Indiana state fair.
These real situations each present the type of difficulty that can't be overcome by accepting a 90 fps average shift in velocity from previous norms.
Get out there and test compadre, and be safe!
Take a look at the differences in performance between 9mm, 40, and 45 defensive loads. Huge differences (on paper) in weight, velocity, etc etc, and they are all perfectly acceptable and effective defensive rounds. What are you searching for?Various methods, barriers, distances, calibers, barrel lengths.
I prayed and jeezus told me to do it.Take a look at the differences in performance between 9mm, 40, and 45 defensive loads. Huge differences in weight, velocity, etc etc, and they are all perfectly acceptable and effective defensive rounds. What are you searching for?
At the end of the day, they are all expanding chunks of lead and copper roughly the same size moving roughly the same speed (all well above what's necessary) and drum roll........................produce roughly the same results.
If there was ever a time to roll out the overused phrase "analysis paralysis", this is it.
I didn't shoot a paper target outside of sighting in rifles until a few years ago when I was forced to shoot at indoor ranges, but I never saw a difference that mattered in performance on target between the big 3. A little more penetration here, a little wider hole there, but nothing that would make much difference in an sd situation.I prayed and jeezus told me to do it.
I like to shoot a lot.
And when I shoot, besides hitting the targets, I want to see what happens to those targets. And most of my targets are not paper. Paper is used for sighting in.
Dont be mad.
Jesus, I must be poor. No way I would spend $900 on ammo for a range day unless select fire stuff is involved or big bore (50 BMG).I log every type of ammo in every gun I shoot because it's important to me to know factors such as penetration, trajectory, etc.
And yes, I do shoot what I carry.
Mostly Corbon, Underwood, Buffalo Bore, Fiocchi, Geco.
Yesterday I shot 4 boxes of Geco BAT 9mm, 12 boxes of Fiocchi Combat 9mm, 9 boxes of Underwood 9mm and .357sig in various weights, 4 boxes of Dynamit Nobel .32, 2 boxes of S&B .32 AP, and 3 boxes of Santa Barbara .380.
The ammo above is roughly $900. Shot through 14 different handguns. In about 4hrs.
I do a lot of testing with various ammo from different guns and log it all. I always want to know what happens after the bang, where it hits and what damage it does into various targets from various guns at various distances.
I'm assuming @oio has signed a deal with So So Def and has reached full on baller status at the local range. I'm still a junior baller myself.Jesus, I must be poor. No way I would spend $900 on ammo for a range day unless select fire stuff is involved or big bore (50 BMG).
Local range? LolI'm assuming @oio has signed a deal with So So Def and has reached full on baller status at the local range. I'm still a junior baller myself.
Man, if I could afford to shoot that much, I really would. Damn though, $900 is more budget for ammo than I get to shoot all year.I'm assuming @oio has signed a deal with So So Def and has reached full on baller status at the local range. I'm still a junior baller myself.
Now you're just being pretentious.Local range? Lol
I have land.
I let my nephew pick up all the brass and sell it. He made over $8k in several weeks last year doing just that.
No, absolutely not.Now you're just being pretentious.
I do have quite a bit of info stored.Man, if I could afford to shoot that much, I really would. Damn though, $900 is more budget for ammo than I get to shoot all year.
If I were rich, like really rich, I would probably do the same out of curiosity, but not every time I went to shoot. Some days it nice just to go to the range and have some fun. Then again, fun to one person is different to others.
I'm not going to knock @oio range day preferences, it does seem excessive (to me) BUT if I could afford it, I would like to do some in depth analysis on defense loads and see how they actually perform in misc scenarios. Not sure i would make those my only range ammo though.
Anyways, @oio. You should post some write ups on your findings for some of us poor people to read about! lol
Doesn't sound very scientific. You would be much better off reading the online data... but if you've got money to burn...Btw, if you were curious:
If a dead 220lb hog is attacking you while hiding behind a 1/4" thick 48"X36" steel plate at 100yds, a 5.45 7N6 from a Vepr 20.5" will go through both.
If fired from a 16.3" Vepr, it goes through the plate but after that only 3" or so into the hog. So in that case, the dead hog can jump over the steel plate, dash the 100yds and fuck you up while you're busy wondering about effectiveness of calibers
I gave one obscure example that we had fun with.Doesn't sound very scientific. You would be much better off reading the online data... but if you've got money to burn...
Is your friend's name 2 Chainz?One of my friends taped a brand new Springfield TRP to a target and made scrap metal of it with his 54R, things like that would make Springfield 1911 fanboys cry, but to him it's a cheap piece of shit and it means nothing (and I'm the poor one in the group)