7.62x51mm vs 7.62x54R

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So after purging so many of my guns and giving the wife a good chunk of change I have a little bit of money left over to buy another gun ( with her blessing even!). Since I acquired an OPAP and some ammo I think I have the general BS rifle taken care of. I'm looking now at more of an MBR type of gun...mainly at the PTR-91 GI 16" and the VEPR x54R in either 16" or 20".

Both guns have the same initial cost, though the VEPR would cost a little more once it has been made the way it should look.

Mags for the PTR are almost free while mags for the VEPR would cost a little more than standard AK mags.

So far, the PTR is on top as far as cost goes, but here is where the VEPR gains a lot of ground: ammo cost. Ammo for the VEPR is literally half, or less than half, of what .308 costs. Both cartridges are about equal as far as energy is concerned.

The PTR would be more accurate, but by how much I don't know. Both would be acceptably accurate enough for my intended uses, 200-650ish yards.

Both are in the same weight category, both are very reliable with possibly a slight edge to the VEPR because it has a less complicated design.

Which is the better choice?
 

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I'd go PTR. Ammo cost has never bothered me too much. Your AK is your high volume round, the .308 (outside of plinking) will be utilized with a very specific purpose (lower volume) objective in mind. Just pound a few less through it, and a little more through the AK and you've offset any cost issue. The PTR is also nice and compact, especially with the folding stock. That's always a consideration for me anyway. I'd like to be able to pack the gun around in a bag that doesn't look "gun like".
 
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I'd go PTR. Ammo cost has never bothered me too much. Your AK is your high volume round, the .308 (outside of plinking) will be utilized with a very specific purpose (lower volume) objective in mind. Just pound a few less through it, and a little more through the AK and you've offset any cost issue. The PTR is also nice and compact, especially with the folding stock. That's always a consideration for me anyway. I'd like to be able to pack the gun around in a bag that doesn't look "gun like".

Good point. I do love the look of a PTR-HK 91 with the sliding stock...
 
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Good point. I do love the look of a PTR-HK 91 with the sliding stock...
Yeah, the sliding stock is pretty slick too and looks better. I'm not sure about the cheek weld and shoulder comfort though. I've never fired one.

Soft guitar cases are great gun bags too btw. Perfect length, and lots of pockets for mags and extras.

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This is a good one. If I ever needed to be really incognito, the peace sign bag would be the cat's ass.
 
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