US Army getting JHP's?

[Hoss]

Is the Army considering utilizing JHP's in their new handguns? In their requirements list for the new XM-17 ?

"With the minimum of fanfare, the U.S. Army has made an announcement that challenges a long-standing prohibition in international humanitarian law: the banning of ‘expanding’ or hollow point ammunition from the battlefield. The announcement came in the context of a presentation on the updated requirements for the next-generation U.S. Army handgun—designated the XM-17—which took place at a Picatinny Arsenal Industry Day last month.

Earlier discussion of the requirements for the XM-17 suggested strongly that the new handgun would need to be at least .40 or .45 caliber to achieve the ballistic effects specified by the U.S. Army solicitation. However in this new statement, the U.S. Army spokesman quietly added another consideration: that the new handgun be compatible with “special purpose ammunition,” specifically jacketed hollow point (JHP) ammunition. For those companies planning to submit one or more designs for the XM-17 competition (success in which will result in a massive order of 280,000 handguns at a minimum) this means that handguns chambered for the NATO standard 9mm round are now serious contenders alongside .40 or .45 caliber guns."

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/hollow-point-ammunition-the-us-army-good-idea-13549

 

[PewPewPewCo]

Who doesn't love some 45 open tip match ammunition.

 

[rOmiLaYu]

I thought the Geneva convention forbid open tip ammo. No?

 

[George P. Burdell]

I thought the Geneva convention forbid open tip ammo. No?

I also thought this was the case. Maybe their "special purposes" are exempt from this somehow

 

[Hayata]

I'm guessing for special forces only type applications?

 

[AtlMedic]

I thought the Geneva convention forbid open tip ammo. No?

it was the hauge convention, and the US never signed that part about expanding ammo. It also only applies if they are being used against another country that also signed.

 

[Liberty]

Who says hp ammo is for use overseas welcome to communist amerika.

 

[dial1911]

Ha... I love the HP argument. Incendiary ammo- sure. High explosive rifle rounds- fine. Tungsten core- no problem. But don't use no damn hollow points!

 

[Bypass]

I carried Hydra shocks while in Iraq. Shhhh don't tell anyone.

 

[Laufen]

I thought the Geneva convention forbid open tip ammo. No?

Hague,...................... atlemt beat me to it.

 

[AtlMedic]

Hague,...................... atlemt beat me to it.

I already passed one test today so I must be on a roll with being smart and shit.

 

[Laufen]

I'm down for surplus hp's.

 

[Hoss]

I carried Hydra shocks while in Iraq. Shhhh don't tell anyone.

What the hell @Bypass??? You could have killed someone!!!!

 

[Bypass]

What the hell @Bypass??? You could have killed someone!!!!

I know right. :evil:

 

[AtlMedic]

It will be interesting to see what ammo they go with

 

[Laufen]

What the hell @Bypass??? You could have killed someone!!!!

Those are cop killers I hear. In NJ they're referred to by lawmakers as dum dum rounds, or hollow nose bullets. That fucking backward ass place.

 

[Laufen]

It will be interesting to see what ammo they go with

RIP most likely.

 

[DTW762]

I'm down for surplus hp's.

Damn skippy!

 

[rOmiLaYu]

it was the hauge convention, and the US never signed that part about expanding ammo. It also only applies if they are being used against another country that also signed.

I stand corrected. Thanks for that.

 

[Bypass]

Those are cop killers I hear. In NJ they're referred to by lawmakers as dum dum rounds, or hollow nose bullets. That fucking backward ass place.

Funny thing is that it was the ammo we were issuing the IPs. So I just grabbed a few boxes for myself and my boys. I figured fuck these assholes they don't need em and more than likely they will be fired in my direction so why not send em right back. Rover red rover and all style.