Scare Prices Vs Oversaturation

[Strider12]

So it looks like we are going to have a scare (scarcity).

Question: with the AR market, as well as the "hi-cap" magazine market, saturated as it has been and prices as low as they have been, do you actually see scare prices going as high at post-Newtown or will there just be minor panic buying here and there?

 

[Laufen]

I don't think current prices or saturation matters. Forever is forever, and with that type of legislation in the pipe people will lose their shit.

 

[Righter13]

I don't think it will be as bad as it was post Newtown.

Most people now have what they want/need.

Only people I see rushing to buy more rifles are 1)flippers 2) people who just turned of age to get said weapons.

Just my opinion.

 

[Hayata]

I dunno, hard one to call.

The last time this happened I don't think it was the gun guys per se who helped create the shortage. I mean, yeah, if you didn't have one and you thought you wouldn't be able to get another one EVER then you paid your money. But last time I think there were a lot of non-gun types, doctors, lawyers, whatever, who kinda thought the same thing. Dropping $1,500 on an AR was nothing to them and I think there were a lot of NEW gun owners after the last one.

From what I read there are folks who have built who-knows-how-many since prices have come down. I used to joke the price of ARs would go DOWN during the next panic because of all the ones coming off of the benches for sale.

We will see what happens but one things for sure, we, as a gun community, need to come together and write our senators and representatives (both state and federal) to let them know how we feel about slowly losing our rights in the interest of "safety".

The good news is ammo seems to still be available and some places still have lowers in stock. Maybe this is just a mini-panic. And right now I think it is the gun community that is fueling it. Once the legislation/election in November hits, it will probably be a full-blown storm.

 

[dougiemac]

So it looks like we are going to have a scare (scarcity).

Question: with the AR market, as well as the "hi-cap" magazine market, saturated as it has been and prices as low as they have been, do you actually see scare prices going as high at post-Newtown or will there just be minor panic buying here and there?

Spikes Tactical has vowed to not raise their prices.

 

[Jake]

Spikes Tactical has vowed to not raise their prices.

Which means that they will be out of stock on pretty much everything...Didn't they jack their prices up post Newtown? Maybe they learned from their mistakes.

 

[dougiemac]

Which means that they will be out of stock on pretty much everything...Didn't they jack their prices up post Newtown? Maybe they learned from their mistakes.

You are correct. They did back in 2012 like many other gun manufacturers did. However since Ben Thomas has started working for them, he has not only apologized for the rise in prices after Newtown, but has also promised that as long as he works there, they will not prey on the American people like some opportunists, even if it means they run low on inventory. They are working around the clock to procure, create and assemble AR's as fast as they possibly can.

 

[Laufen]

It might not make any difference if the 2015 "assault weapons" ban makes it through.

I don't think I've ever been this concerned about a piece of radical legislation. Supposed pro-rights politicians have been rolling over lately, and this bill is oriented around surrender, registration, and confiscation.

They're going for the whole enchilada this time.

 

[dougiemac]

It might not make any difference if the 2015 "assault weapons" ban makes it through.

I don't think I've ever been this concerned about a piece of radical legislation. Supposed pro-rights politicians have been rolling over lately, and this bill is oriented around surrender, registration, and confiscation.

They're going for the whole enchilada this time.

If they do, it will be the shot heard around the world as a revolution will ignite in this country.

 

[Laufen]

If they do, it will be the shot heard around the world as a revolution will ignite in this country.

I wish I had that much faith in the people.

I can't even begin to describe how it would make me feel. I'm fucking chewing nails right now.

 

[permaneo vox]

I can tell you that there was no panic at the gunshow last weekend.

I have not tried to reorder anything yet.

 

[Wallace]

You are correct. They did back in 2012 like many other gun manufacturers did. However since Ben Thomas has started working for them, he has not only apologized for the rise in prices after Newtown, but has also promised that as long as he works there, they will not prey on the American people like some opportunists, even if it means they run low on inventory. They are working around the clock to procure, create and assemble AR's as fast as they possibly can.

That sounds great until forgings and carier/bolt steel stock dries up and they are left trying to make a living from buffers, grenade launchers, and odds and ends. It doesn't make business sense to not have a slight increase if you have the same or higher fixed costs but less product to ship.

Now, if this "panic" doesn't get out of control, I see no need for prices to increase.

Just my $.02

 

[Wallace]

I dunno, hard one to call.

The last time this happened I don't think it was the gun guys per se who helped create the shortage. I mean, yeah, if you didn't have one and you thought you wouldn't be able to get another one EVER then you paid your money. But last time I think there were a lot of non-gun types, doctors, lawyers, whatever, who kinda thought the same thing. Dropping $1,500 on an AR was nothing to them and I think there were a lot of NEW gun owners after the last one.

From what I read there are folks who have built who-knows-how-many since prices have come down. I used to joke the price of ARs would go DOWN during the next panic because of all the ones coming off of the benches for sale.

We will see what happens but one things for sure, we, as a gun community, need to come together and write our senators and representatives (both state and federal) to let them know how we feel about slowly losing our rights in the interest of "safety".

The good news is ammo seems to still be available and some places still have lowers in stock. Maybe this is just a mini-panic. And right now I think it is the gun community that is fueling it. Once the legislation/election in November hits, it will probably be a full-blown storm.

Disagree here. Wasn't wealthy folks that created surge in prices, it was many gun enthusiast, dealers, and manufacturers.

Nearly EVERYONE went all in and manufacturers were not prepared to meet demands of 3,4,5+ times the orders in a matter days/weeks.

I saw an FFL get a letter from a manufacturer saying it was basically vendors over ordering that caused their shortage. It was in bad taste IMHO, but helped shed light on some of the issues at the time.

 

[Bypass]

If they do, it will be the shot heard around the world as a revolution will ignite in this country.

Finally, someone said it.

 

[TruPrep]

We sold 2000 PMAGs at $8.99 this week. People will freak no matter what.

 

[Bypass]

We sold 2000 PMAGs at $8.99 this week. People will freak no matter what.

I still have magazines I haven't loaded yet. I should probably get on that.

 

[TruPrep]

I still have magazines I haven't loaded yet. I should probably get on that.

Yes

 

[Dinky Dau]

It's time for me to see the store, leaning strongly towards making a trip down in the morning to check the place out.

 

[TruPrep]

It's time for me to see the store, leaning strongly towards making a trip down in the morning to check the place out.

Cya here.

 

[Cudruln]

It's time for me to see the store, leaning strongly towards making a trip down in the morning to check the place out.

It is a pretty cool store. That have lots of fun things. Next time I go I am not taking the wife though.