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Anyone with the slightest interest in AKs has probably heard of Jim Fuller. If they’ve ever researched American AKs, they’ve seen the name Rifle Dynamics. Rifle Dynamics has recently been working on a DMR (Designated Marksman Rifle) Kalashnikov build: the RD 700 DMR. Why? Three reasons, as they tell it.

1. To show that the AK platform can be accurate.

2. We choose the 7.62×39 cartridge because it is not the best cartridge design for accuracy but it is the most common.

3. By proving that even with the limited accuracy of the 7,62×39 the platform can be as accurate as any other medium power fighting rifle.


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Rifle Dynamics new DMR
The trigger in this particular weapon is an ALG AKT and weighs in at 11 lbs. It has an 18 in. barrel and is based on the Sharps Bros. MB47 receiver (which, incidentally, they will soon be selling on their site as stripped receivers). The rifle will retail for under $3,000.00 and should be available by late summer/early fall; they’re waiting to see how the 7.62 version does before determining if it’s feasible to do a 5.45. They do advise the success of Fuller’s new creation opens the door for a 5.56, 5.45 or 6.5 Grendel round, which would “…extend the distances.” The gas tube was chosen to save weight and was left open rather than covered with a handguard because they liked the way it looked. Note apparently that any standard gas tube can be used on this gun; this particular version was chosen to save weight. The barrel is as free floated as it’s possible to be “…and still be an AK.”

Says Fuller of the weapon’s performance recently in the hands of Haley Strategic Partners,

“…I’m more impressed [than a 3-shot group at 100 yards] at the 5.314 group at 500 yards since for years people have been saying you can’t hit anything beyond 100 yards. Having the gun hold MOA out to 500 says a lot.”


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They’re looking forward to using the 6.5 Grendel in particular because, as Fuller explains, “The 7.62 really isn’t the best caliber for distance shooting. The accuracy of even high quality 7.62 x 39 begins to fall apart at 550-600 yards.”


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Says Rifle Dynamics,

“All in all this has been something we have always wanted to do; it has brought some great companies together in this endeavor to do it. Sharps Bros, SLR Rifleworks, Haley Strategic Partners, BCM, ALG, Larue, Arsenal, Trijicon, Cor Bon Ammo and RS Regulate…these fine companies all provided things to bring the AK into new directions for our industry. That’s how it should work in American Industry.”


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I get why they did it, but aside to show its possible, is there any benefit to using an AK pattern rifle over the AR platform?
 

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$3k ish to make an AK shoot as well as a DPMS?

Yeah, they really showed the haters. lol



also, an 11 pound trigger?
I was wondering about that as well. Why the hell would you essentially want a revolver trigger on your precision rifle.


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I get why they did it, but aside to show its possible, is there any benefit to using an AK pattern rifle over the AR platform?
There are a dozen reasons for either side.


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There are a dozen reasons for either side.


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Aside from reliability what other benefit would the AK have though? I like AKs and I'm not trying to start the ol AR vs AK debate, I'm just genuinely curious.
 

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I was wondering about that as well. Why the hell would you essentially want a revolver trigger on your precision rifle.


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That's worse than my Scorpion, and it's the worst trigger I've ever felt. I hope they misplaced their decimal.
 

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Aside from reliability what other benefit would the AK have though? I like AKs and I'm not trying to start the ol AR vs AK debate, I'm just genuinely curious.
It sounds like it was just an exercise to see what was possible. I believe modern AR's are on par with AK's as far as reliability goes.
 

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Aside from reliability what other benefit would the AK have though? I like AKs and I'm not trying to start the ol AR vs AK debate, I'm just genuinely curious.
The AK reliability will be challenged here as many side by side test showed the AK have as much or more problems than an AR.

Im not going there. but just noting this will be argued.
 
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Aside from reliability what other benefit would the AK have though? I like AKs and I'm not trying to start the ol AR vs AK debate, I'm just genuinely curious.
For me most of it is caliber, specifically the terminal ballistics of the 762 rounds over a super fast 22 bullet... The cost for a 30 cal ak rifle and mags and ammo is the best part for me. If 300blkout wasn't a dollar a round I'd FOR SURE have ARS in that round and not one AK, considering the projectile trajectory and ballistics are nearly identical to the x39. Bbut yeah the reliability is nice too.


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It sounds like it was just an exercise to see what was possible. I believe modern AR's are on par with AK's as far as reliability goes.

That's what I've gathered when I was really trying to decide which platform I wanted to get into.
 
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For me most of it is caliber, specifically the terminal ballistics of the 762 rounds over a super fast 22 bullet... The cost for s 30 cal rifle and mags and ammo is the best thing for me. If 300blkout wasn't a dollar a round I'd FOR SURE have ARS in that round and not one AK. but yeah the reliability is nice too.


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That makes sense, I could also see it being beneficial for someone already heavily invested in x39 ammo and mags.
 

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That makes sense, I could also see it being beneficial for someone already heavily invested in x39 ammo and mags.
Yeah and I don't go 762x39 AR because of the lack of time they've been around to determine quality and what not. I might though if they prove themselves. I've seen a. Few people with them and they were pricey as all get out AND had issues now and then. I'm not convinced yet.


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Yeah and I don't go 762x39 AR because of the lack of time they've been around to determine quality and what not. I might though if they prove themselves. I've seen a. Few people with them and they were pricey as all get out AND had issues now and then. I'm not convinced yet.


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Yeah, pass on those too. If it wasn't designed from the ground up for the cartridge, I'm passing.
 
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I bet if getting an AK to shoot AR accuracy, they have to tighten up everything to AR specs and as a result becomes less reliable.

Color me unimpressed.
 
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Yeah and I don't go 762x39 AR because of the lack of time they've been around to determine quality and what not. I might though if they prove themselves. I've seen a. Few people with them and they were pricey as all get out AND had issues now and then. I'm not convinced yet.


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They all have issues. Some just have owners that don't shoot enough for them to present themselves.
 
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